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Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77654254" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>I see it differently. The founding fathers are not just talking about any god but the Creator God who also created us with those unalienable natural God given rights. Rights beyond. Its inherent that we are made in Gods image in that we are given greater worth that animals because we were created with a divine aspect. </p><p></p><p>The founding fathers and society all believed in the creator God that upheld order for society and the universe for that matter. So they were very aware of the significance of placing the value of humans and what is right on God and not themselves or society.</p><p></p><p>The idea of 'Government for the people and by the people' was based on the same Creator God authorising man to elect governments over themselves appointed by God. This is reflected in the bible with how the Isrealites formed society based on electing respected members to uphold the laws and how Paul wrote to the early church in electing respected and wise members to govern the church society. </p><p></p><p>I disagree. We already know that its a 'Creator God' of everything including humans. We know that God installed natural unalienable Rights in us as part of that creation. Rights that make us above what the created can determine or have authority uphold. So it seems a very personal God who understands humans, they Rights to life. </p><p></p><p>The thing is the vast majority of society believed in the Christian creator God of the bible. The fathers had to work out a way to incorporate that in without denying the natural rights to freedoms of belief. But every bit of their life was living out the Christian God in their language and morals ect.</p><p></p><p>Some believed in a Deistic God but they stll seem to believe in a God who created humans as something special, above animals with divine status. This was the basis for ending slavery as many believed blacks to be subhuman and the Christian value was all humans were created equal in Gods image or at least with some divine or transcedent status above what humans could determine or be worthy to determine. </p><p></p><p>Only God had this authority which seems to personalise Him. .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77654254, member: 342064"] I see it differently. The founding fathers are not just talking about any god but the Creator God who also created us with those unalienable natural God given rights. Rights beyond. Its inherent that we are made in Gods image in that we are given greater worth that animals because we were created with a divine aspect. The founding fathers and society all believed in the creator God that upheld order for society and the universe for that matter. So they were very aware of the significance of placing the value of humans and what is right on God and not themselves or society. The idea of 'Government for the people and by the people' was based on the same Creator God authorising man to elect governments over themselves appointed by God. This is reflected in the bible with how the Isrealites formed society based on electing respected members to uphold the laws and how Paul wrote to the early church in electing respected and wise members to govern the church society. I disagree. We already know that its a 'Creator God' of everything including humans. We know that God installed natural unalienable Rights in us as part of that creation. Rights that make us above what the created can determine or have authority uphold. So it seems a very personal God who understands humans, they Rights to life. The thing is the vast majority of society believed in the Christian creator God of the bible. The fathers had to work out a way to incorporate that in without denying the natural rights to freedoms of belief. But every bit of their life was living out the Christian God in their language and morals ect. Some believed in a Deistic God but they stll seem to believe in a God who created humans as something special, above animals with divine status. This was the basis for ending slavery as many believed blacks to be subhuman and the Christian value was all humans were created equal in Gods image or at least with some divine or transcedent status above what humans could determine or be worthy to determine. Only God had this authority which seems to personalise Him. . [/QUOTE]
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