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<blockquote data-quote="Bradskii" data-source="post: 77661640" data-attributes="member: 412388"><p>Many are unknown. But if it's a deterministic universe then they must exist. That's the very definition of deterministic. Everything is caused by previous events. There's no need for any other term when the one encompasses everything we need.</p><p></p><p>It covers all influences. You are of course free to give any examples of something that happens without a cause.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter how many orders of thinking you go through. You end up doing what you want to for the reasons you want to do it. I don't want to go to the gym - I'd rather go to the pub. But my long term desires override my short term ones.</p><p></p><p>Those terms are used because they exactly define what's being discussed. Redefine them and we wont be talking about the same thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bradskii, post: 77661640, member: 412388"] Many are unknown. But if it's a deterministic universe then they must exist. That's the very definition of deterministic. Everything is caused by previous events. There's no need for any other term when the one encompasses everything we need. It covers all influences. You are of course free to give any examples of something that happens without a cause. It doesn't matter how many orders of thinking you go through. You end up doing what you want to for the reasons you want to do it. I don't want to go to the gym - I'd rather go to the pub. But my long term desires override my short term ones. Those terms are used because they exactly define what's being discussed. Redefine them and we wont be talking about the same thing. [/QUOTE]
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