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<blockquote data-quote="durangodawood" data-source="post: 77661194" data-attributes="member: 200668"><p>Excellent. I've been hoping someone would show us a <em>different </em>basis upon which we make decisions besides the nature of the person we are at the time.</p><p></p><p>Both determinists and free-willers (like me) agree with this: we change. Everything changes. Even God changes His mind once in a while, per the Bible.</p><p></p><p>Wait! Where's the presentation of the alternate basis upon which we make decisions??? All you do is reiterate, basically: "we make decisions". I'm not seeing anything here that overturns a determinist view that:</p><p></p><p>A. we make decisions based on our own nature at the time. This nature is the reason we make a decision from among options arrayed before us. (I am still overcome by the enticement of unhealthy food. or...I am getting sick of being unhealthy.)</p><p></p><p>B. at any given moment, our nature is determined by our history. What else could our nature result from?</p><p></p><p>Id love to see the explanation of<em> how </em>we can come to be independent of the sort of person we are at any given time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="durangodawood, post: 77661194, member: 200668"] Excellent. I've been hoping someone would show us a [I]different [/I]basis upon which we make decisions besides the nature of the person we are at the time. Both determinists and free-willers (like me) agree with this: we change. Everything changes. Even God changes His mind once in a while, per the Bible. Wait! Where's the presentation of the alternate basis upon which we make decisions??? All you do is reiterate, basically: "we make decisions". I'm not seeing anything here that overturns a determinist view that: A. we make decisions based on our own nature at the time. This nature is the reason we make a decision from among options arrayed before us. (I am still overcome by the enticement of unhealthy food. or...I am getting sick of being unhealthy.) B. at any given moment, our nature is determined by our history. What else could our nature result from? Id love to see the explanation of[I] how [/I]we can come to be independent of the sort of person we are at any given time. [/QUOTE]
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