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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Quayle" data-source="post: 77646448" data-attributes="member: 410020"><p>Unless, of course, 'free will' only means ability to choose, and that, according to our own preferences and inclinations, (even if only for that instant of choice). Because that is what we always choose.</p><p></p><p>But take it a step further, though you hinted at it. Is there any possibility that anything else can happen besides what does happen? Is chaos, unpredictability and probability only OUR assessment —our guess— and 'chance just a placeholder for, "I don't know"'? Empirically, I have to say, only whatever does happen could have happened. At least, I've never seen anything else happen.</p><p></p><p>Now, if nothing else could have happened, yet something did happen, I'd have to guess that what did happen HAD to happen. Thus, determinism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Quayle, post: 77646448, member: 410020"] Unless, of course, 'free will' only means ability to choose, and that, according to our own preferences and inclinations, (even if only for that instant of choice). Because that is what we always choose. But take it a step further, though you hinted at it. Is there any possibility that anything else can happen besides what does happen? Is chaos, unpredictability and probability only OUR assessment —our guess— and 'chance just a placeholder for, "I don't know"'? Empirically, I have to say, only whatever does happen could have happened. At least, I've never seen anything else happen. Now, if nothing else could have happened, yet something did happen, I'd have to guess that what did happen HAD to happen. Thus, determinism. [/QUOTE]
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