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<blockquote data-quote="Bradskii" data-source="post: 77646335" data-attributes="member: 412388"><p>All decisions we make are determined by existing and prior influences. There has been an effectively infinite chain of events which has resulted in me sitting here writing this sentence. They have <em>all </em>led to this point. From the major events - I was born at a specific time and place, to the minor ones - it's raining today, to the seemingly inconsequential - I broke a string on my guitar last night.</p><p></p><p>There is no way that existence cannot be described other than determined. </p><p></p><p>The question is then not whether we make decisions that affect the trajectory of future events - I obviously decided to do this rather than something else. But if free will is defined as the ability to make decisions that are <em>not </em>determined by prior events and we could rerun the last hour <em>exactly </em>as it happened and make a <em>different </em>decision, then something actually needs to be different. But rerunning it <em>exactly </em>as it happened means that nothing <em>is</em> different. </p><p></p><p>So free will cannot be compatible with determinism. And if existence is deterministic then free will is an illusion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bradskii, post: 77646335, member: 412388"] All decisions we make are determined by existing and prior influences. There has been an effectively infinite chain of events which has resulted in me sitting here writing this sentence. They have [I]all [/I]led to this point. From the major events - I was born at a specific time and place, to the minor ones - it's raining today, to the seemingly inconsequential - I broke a string on my guitar last night. There is no way that existence cannot be described other than determined. The question is then not whether we make decisions that affect the trajectory of future events - I obviously decided to do this rather than something else. But if free will is defined as the ability to make decisions that are [I]not [/I]determined by prior events and we could rerun the last hour [I]exactly [/I]as it happened and make a [I]different [/I]decision, then something actually needs to be different. But rerunning it [I]exactly [/I]as it happened means that nothing [I]is[/I] different. So free will cannot be compatible with determinism. And if existence is deterministic then free will is an illusion. [/QUOTE]
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