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Could Vienna’s approach to affordable housing work in California?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 77670471" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>Right, but it's popular in a place where everyone thinks alike and similar cultural backgrounds.</p><p></p><p>And, if I can point out the slight bit of irony, it's kind of hard to claim that it doesn't have any link to communist roots when it's literally a case where the beacon of the program (and the largest social housing complex in the program) is both named after, and has a big statue, of Karl Marx out front. I can't be the only one to notice the irony in that right? (it's called the Karl Marx HOF if you'd like to look it up)</p><p></p><p>But I digress...I understand that some people are drawn to certain ideas that are associated with certain people (even if they're not on-board with everything they stood for)... much like a lot of the college "radicals" who wear Che Guevara shirts wouldn't be on-board with all of his ideals, it's just a way to virtue signal their "radicalness"</p><p></p><p>...but I still think it's a case where it is "the government telling you wear to live". Maybe not with the pinpoint accuracy of "Comrade, you will live in unit 2B at the Stalin Estates at the corner of Lenin street and Engels avenue", but enough that people here wouldn't like it if forced to participate.</p><p></p><p>If you have to get on a waiting list, and then they show you the filtered down list of options you're allowed to choose from based on what they <em>think</em> your need are... while that's not full blown communism, it's certainly not full blown freedom either.</p><p></p><p>While unrestricted capitalism certainly has its fair share of pitfalls and blind spots, collectivist models have trade-offs as well.</p><p></p><p>Let's be honest here, you wouldn't want to live in a building full of "MAGA deplorables" anymore than they'd want to live in a building full of what they see as "woke libs"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 77670471, member: 123415"] Right, but it's popular in a place where everyone thinks alike and similar cultural backgrounds. And, if I can point out the slight bit of irony, it's kind of hard to claim that it doesn't have any link to communist roots when it's literally a case where the beacon of the program (and the largest social housing complex in the program) is both named after, and has a big statue, of Karl Marx out front. I can't be the only one to notice the irony in that right? (it's called the Karl Marx HOF if you'd like to look it up) But I digress...I understand that some people are drawn to certain ideas that are associated with certain people (even if they're not on-board with everything they stood for)... much like a lot of the college "radicals" who wear Che Guevara shirts wouldn't be on-board with all of his ideals, it's just a way to virtue signal their "radicalness" ...but I still think it's a case where it is "the government telling you wear to live". Maybe not with the pinpoint accuracy of "Comrade, you will live in unit 2B at the Stalin Estates at the corner of Lenin street and Engels avenue", but enough that people here wouldn't like it if forced to participate. If you have to get on a waiting list, and then they show you the filtered down list of options you're allowed to choose from based on what they [I]think[/I] your need are... while that's not full blown communism, it's certainly not full blown freedom either. While unrestricted capitalism certainly has its fair share of pitfalls and blind spots, collectivist models have trade-offs as well. Let's be honest here, you wouldn't want to live in a building full of "MAGA deplorables" anymore than they'd want to live in a building full of what they see as "woke libs" [/QUOTE]
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