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Christmas Music. Sincerely Thread. Evil, or Not Evil ? When is too soon ? Are you the 3rd category of people everyone else thinks is annoying ?
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<blockquote data-quote="ViaCrucis" data-source="post: 77632049" data-attributes="member: 293637"><p>Luke calls Mary Joseph's "μεμνηστευμένῃ ... γυναικὶ", his "promised woman/wife". In the sense that Mary was "given" to him as a wife, following standard marriage procedure from the time, place, and culture.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure that this indicates at what stage of the marriage procedure Joseph and Mary were at, something that Matthew is more concerned with, hence what is discussed in Matthew chapter 1.</p><p></p><p>There doesn't appear to be much, if any, conflict between Matthew and Luke here.</p><p></p><p>Matthew tells us that Joseph took Mary to be his wife (they were already betrothed), but that they did not consummate (Matthew 1:25). Luke tells us that Joseph and Mary, the woman he was given to marry, went to Bethlehem were Jesus was born.</p><p></p><p>Matthew skips the birth of Jesus and skips ahead a couple years to when the magi from the east were seeking the Jewish Messiah, which led to Herod's slaughter of the innocents. Luke, on the other hand, goes into all kinds of detail about Jesus' birth, such as the angels appearing to the shepherds, and those same shepherds coming to worship the Newborn Messiah.</p><p></p><p>What we have isn't a conflict; but siimply two writers offering different pieces of information. Matthew wants to assure us that Joseph did go through with taking Mary home, even though they did not consummate; Luke wants to tell us that they went to Bethelehem.</p><p></p><p>-CryptoLutheran</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ViaCrucis, post: 77632049, member: 293637"] Luke calls Mary Joseph's "μεμνηστευμένῃ ... γυναικὶ", his "promised woman/wife". In the sense that Mary was "given" to him as a wife, following standard marriage procedure from the time, place, and culture. I'm not sure that this indicates at what stage of the marriage procedure Joseph and Mary were at, something that Matthew is more concerned with, hence what is discussed in Matthew chapter 1. There doesn't appear to be much, if any, conflict between Matthew and Luke here. Matthew tells us that Joseph took Mary to be his wife (they were already betrothed), but that they did not consummate (Matthew 1:25). Luke tells us that Joseph and Mary, the woman he was given to marry, went to Bethlehem were Jesus was born. Matthew skips the birth of Jesus and skips ahead a couple years to when the magi from the east were seeking the Jewish Messiah, which led to Herod's slaughter of the innocents. Luke, on the other hand, goes into all kinds of detail about Jesus' birth, such as the angels appearing to the shepherds, and those same shepherds coming to worship the Newborn Messiah. What we have isn't a conflict; but siimply two writers offering different pieces of information. Matthew wants to assure us that Joseph did go through with taking Mary home, even though they did not consummate; Luke wants to tell us that they went to Bethelehem. -CryptoLutheran [/QUOTE]
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