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<blockquote data-quote="Kylie" data-source="post: 77641283" data-attributes="member: 343110"><p>Okay, so then when you asked me, "Why would you think that I'm here to show you, or try to convince you that my beliefs are true?" This is why. Because you just told me.</p><p></p><p>Why not? Just provide the testable evidence for it.</p><p></p><p>After all, I can convince you that I'm having Vegemite toast for breakfast. A simple video call would do that, since you'd be able to see for yourself. Or perhaps you could be watching me eat the vegemite toast and you'd still think, "Nah, there's stilla chance Kylie's eating bacon and eggs for breakfast..."</p><p></p><p>Why is faith a requirement?</p><p></p><p>If something is real, then the evidence is all that is required. I don't need faith to know that relativity is correct, or that a particular electrical circuit has a particular effect based on the layout and resistance of everything (I'm probably butchering that as I know nothing about how electrical circuits work, but I hope you get my point).</p><p></p><p>In short: evidence speaks for itself. No faith is required.</p><p></p><p>Except that doesn't happen with things like relativity, gravity, etc. No faith is needed at all for them. So why is God suddenly different?</p><p></p><p>And you don't think there's a chance you are more willing to accept things because you WANT them to be true?</p><p></p><p>Then how can you claim that your subjective experience is perfectly convincing?</p><p></p><p>If you are being honest with yourself, shouldn't you accept the possibility that your subjective experience has led you to the wrong conclusion?</p><p></p><p>Probably? I can't see anyway in which my claim here is not right.</p><p></p><p>And that's where evidence comes in. Evidence is undeniable. If I want to believe it's a warm sunny day, but I am taken outside and forced to see that it is overcast and rainy, there's no way I could continue to believe that it's sunny.</p><p></p><p>That's right. Opinions can cloud your judgement. So we should not use them when finding out what is true. We should stick to the objective and testable and repeatable evidence.</p><p></p><p>So, have you got any? If so, please present it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kylie, post: 77641283, member: 343110"] Okay, so then when you asked me, "Why would you think that I'm here to show you, or try to convince you that my beliefs are true?" This is why. Because you just told me. Why not? Just provide the testable evidence for it. After all, I can convince you that I'm having Vegemite toast for breakfast. A simple video call would do that, since you'd be able to see for yourself. Or perhaps you could be watching me eat the vegemite toast and you'd still think, "Nah, there's stilla chance Kylie's eating bacon and eggs for breakfast..." Why is faith a requirement? If something is real, then the evidence is all that is required. I don't need faith to know that relativity is correct, or that a particular electrical circuit has a particular effect based on the layout and resistance of everything (I'm probably butchering that as I know nothing about how electrical circuits work, but I hope you get my point). In short: evidence speaks for itself. No faith is required. Except that doesn't happen with things like relativity, gravity, etc. No faith is needed at all for them. So why is God suddenly different? And you don't think there's a chance you are more willing to accept things because you WANT them to be true? Then how can you claim that your subjective experience is perfectly convincing? If you are being honest with yourself, shouldn't you accept the possibility that your subjective experience has led you to the wrong conclusion? Probably? I can't see anyway in which my claim here is not right. And that's where evidence comes in. Evidence is undeniable. If I want to believe it's a warm sunny day, but I am taken outside and forced to see that it is overcast and rainy, there's no way I could continue to believe that it's sunny. That's right. Opinions can cloud your judgement. So we should not use them when finding out what is true. We should stick to the objective and testable and repeatable evidence. So, have you got any? If so, please present it. [/QUOTE]
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