Here is detailed information about the court case Trump is currently involved in

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I found this very interesting and learned a lot (though I already knew it was crooked).

It is absolutely amazing the extent to which extreme leftists will go to destroy their enemy.

Trump is not the enemy of We the People --and that's why the left don't like him. They know they likely will not win the pres election so, here you go. They will likely attempt to cheat (again)
 

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The lengths people will go to to try to defend Trump are astonishingly appalling.

At least his lawyers have fifty million reasons to abandon all scruples, reason, and honesty to defend the indefensible.

But those doing it for free? SMH.

Just checked out messageboard.com

If Mr. Trump needs to drain swamps, he need look no further than there.
 
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I found this very interesting and learned a lot (though I already knew it was crooked).

It is absolutely amazing the extent to which extreme leftists will go to destroy their enemy.

Trump is not the enemy of We the People --and that's why the left don't like him. They know they likely will not win the pres election so, here you go. They will likely attempt to cheat (again)
Interesting web site.

0. your website says "Judge Juan Merchan is orchestrating Trump’s conviction of a crime that is not actually charged in the indictment: conspiracy to violate FECA (the Federal Election Campaign Act — specifically, its spending limits). That should not be possible in the United States,"
-- a stated court acting as if it is litigating a federal crime? Why not let the Feds do it? Something fishy here.


1. Cohen was sentenced to prison because of his lucrative fraud crimes, not the FECA charges. The SDNY (Southern District of New York, the Federal Court that would actually deal with Federal Law violations) never charged Trump, and it almost certainly wouldn’t have charged Cohen if he hadn’t agreed to plead guilty.
2. YET - Bragg "blamed Trump in an extensive narrative" claiming Trump is being charge with state crimes "for which Cohen “went to jail.”
3. Charges actually being litigated against Trump consist of : accusations "that the former president is guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records", no charge of conspiracy and no federal charges in this state court trial.
4. Nothing in the actual charges about interfering with an election (by having one's political opponent put on trial .. .for example)
5. Nothing in the actual charges about a conspiracy

A felony is the classification of the most serious types of crimes1. In the United States, it is a crime that is punishable by death or more than one year in prison2.

"it lists 34 counts of violating New York state law by falsifying business records in the first degree, a Class E felony. The language of each count is nearly identical, accusing Trump of making false records"

"Falsifying business records is a crime that can be classified as either a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the circumstances of the violation12. The crime rises to a felony when the inaccurate record is entered as part of an effort to commit a different, underlying crime1.

from: Donald Trump indictment: What to know about falsifying business records
" the indictment and arraignment of Trump earlier this week, the first for an ex-president in U.S. history, has drawn the nation's attention to a rarely discussed white-collar financial crime: falsifying business records.

As part of a scheme to reimburse former Trump attorney Michael Cohen for hush money payments"

"Of the charges, 11 counts are related to invoices filed by former Trump attorney Michael Cohen; another 11 counts are related to checks issued from Trump accounts or trusts;"

"Each of the records was made in 2017" (So then AFTER the 2016 election and so NOT affecting a US election)

============= Why is this not a misdemeanor?
"The misdemeanor version of the crime usually means "destruction or falsification of business records," Konta said. "When you're doing that in hopes of committing a separate crime, then it's what's called a 'bump up.'"

The standard is akin to the legal treatment of trespassing, Konta added, noting that the mere act of trespassing is a relatively minor crime but the charge becomes far more serious if a trespasser attempts to steal".

<<In other words listing related major crime in the indictment / accusation is key to moving this up beyond a misdemeanor. proving the greater crime stated in the charge - would be key to make this a felony. (See any of these bits missing in the case?)>>


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And of course there is a lot of discussion about the political campaign seeking to bury an unflattering "story" no matter if that story is true or false. (hmm - - laptop story ring a bell? what efforts were made to bury that one??)

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Technical details too complex for a number of voters I suppose.
 
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Politics. Like Love and War apparently all is fair.

"A variety of methods are deployed in politics, which include promoting one's own political views among people, negotiation with other political subjects, making laws, and exercising internal and external force, including warfare against adversaries." Wiki
 
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The lengths people will go to to try to defend Trump are astonishingly appalling.
Maybe try actually reading the information in the OP article. Deal with the facts of the sham trial and maybe suppress the deep seated hatred for Trump just a bit.
 
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So they have an expired misdemeanor (business record fabrication), so to get a court case they have to find an underlying felony, to bump the charge up to a felony to avoid the expiry. However it appears the underlying felony was not defined until the Prosecution closing argument.
In New York, the Prosecution close second, so the Prosecution got to define the underlying felony, after the Defence had done their close. So no chance to response to the actual specific underlying felony. Prosecution selected three possible underlying felony (one of which was not raised anywhere in the original charge). Judge then decides that the jury does not have to unanimously agree on which felony, as long as each of them believes Trump is guilty one of the felonies. So the jury can go 4 for each of the underlying felonies and have 8 that believe he is not guilty that underlying felony, and still find Trump guilty of the underlying felony. Also the underlying felony is only at balance of probability not beyond reasonable doubt.

One of the felonies was around Federal Election issues, Defence were doing to bring an expert on this field but the judge refused this expert to testify, as stating the law is his job.

As an Australian, the home of kangaroos, they deserve not to besmirched with this travesty, the term "kangaroo court", hence forth be known as a "Merchan court"
 
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I found this very interesting and learned a lot (though I already knew it was crooked).

It is absolutely amazing the extent to which extreme leftists will go to destroy their enemy.

Trump is not the enemy of We the People --and that's why the left don't like him. They know they likely will not win the pres election so, here you go. They will likely attempt to cheat (again)
Trump was not on trial for trying to steal the election and the judge made that clear. This story is just right wing propaganda. Merchan bent over backwards in giving Trump leeway.

Trump was convicted by the people, not the judge.
 
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