The Sabbath. Exploring Its Meaning, Purpose, and Practice with Love

JesusFollowerForever · May 11, 2024

The Sabbath is a sacred day of rest, deeply rooted in religious traditions, notably Judaism and Christianity. It is typically observed on the seventh day of the week, which is Saturday for Jews and some Christian denominations.
Understanding the Sabbath:
The Sabbath finds its origins in the creation narrative of the book of Genesis, where it's recounted that God rested on the seventh day after creating the world. This act of divine rest sanctified the day and established the pattern for humanity's observance.
The giving of the Sabbath as a commandment is central to the religious laws outlined in the Old Testament. In Exodus 20:8-11, it's enshrined as one of the Ten Commandments, urging believers to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. This commandment underscores the importance of setting aside a day for rest, worship, and spiritual renewal.
Why was it Given?
The Sabbath was given as a gift to humanity, providing a regular opportunity for physical, emotional, and spiritual rejuvenation. It serves as a time to pause from the demands of daily life, to reflect on our relationship with the divine, and to reconnect with ourselves and our loved ones.
How to Follow it Properly with Love:
True Sabbath observance involves more than mere ritualistic adherence to rules and regulations. It's about embracing the spirit of the Sabbath with love and reverence.
Rest and Reflection: The essence of Sabbath observance lies in rest, not just physically but also mentally and spiritually. It's a day to pause from work and worries, to meditate on the goodness of creation, and to deepen our relationship with the divine.
Community and Connection: The Sabbath is a communal experience, a time to gather with family and friends, to share meals, stories, and laughter, and to strengthen bonds of love and fellowship.
Acts of Kindness and Compassion: True Sabbath observance involves acts of love and service towards others. It's about extending grace and generosity to those in need, following the example of Jesus who healed and helped others even on the Sabbath.
Avoiding Pharisaic Legalism:
In the time of Jesus, the Pharisees were known for their strict adherence to Sabbath laws, often prioritizing rituals over compassion. Jesus, however, challenged this legalistic mindset, emphasizing the weightier matters of justice, mercy, and faithfulness (Matthew 23:23).
Heart Over Ritual: Jesus taught that the Sabbath was made for humanity's well-being, not as a burdensome set of rules to follow. He emphasized the importance of mercy and compassion over rigid adherence to regulations (Mark 2:27).
Freedom in Christ: While the Sabbath remains a sacred institution, the New Testament provides a fresh perspective. In Christ, believers find freedom from legalistic observance of days and rituals, focusing instead on a relationship of grace and faith.
Grace and Forgiveness: Just as Jesus showed grace and forgiveness to those burdened by legalism, we too should extend grace to ourselves and others in our Sabbath observance. What matters most is the sincerity of our hearts and our desire to honor God and love our neighbors.

The Sabbath is a sacred day given by God for rest, reflection, and worship. Observing it properly involves resting from work, connecting with community, and showing love and compassion to others. However, it's essential to avoid the legalistic pitfalls of the Pharisees by prioritizing love, mercy, and grace in our Sabbath observance.

BobRyan · May 11, 2024

JesusFollowerForever said:
The Sabbath is a sacred day of rest, deeply rooted in religious traditions, notably Judaism and Christianity. It is typically observed on the seventh day of the week, which is Saturday for Jews and some Christian denominations.
Understanding the Sabbath:
The Sabbath finds its origins in the creation narrative of the book of Genesis, where it's recounted that God rested on the seventh day after creating the world. This act of divine rest sanctified the day and established the pattern for humanity's observance.
The giving of the Sabbath as a commandment is central to the religious laws outlined in the Old Testament. In Exodus 20:8-11, it's enshrined as one of the Ten Commandments, urging believers to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. This commandment underscores the importance of setting aside a day for rest, worship, and spiritual renewal.
Why was it Given?
The Sabbath was given as a gift to humanity, providing a regular opportunity for physical, emotional, and spiritual rejuvenation. It serves as a time to pause from the demands of daily life, to reflect on our relationship with the divine, and to reconnect with ourselves and our loved ones.
How to Follow it Properly with Love:
True Sabbath observance involves more than mere ritualistic adherence to rules and regulations. It's about embracing the spirit of the Sabbath with love and reverence.
Rest and Reflection: The essence of Sabbath observance lies in rest, not just physically but also mentally and spiritually. It's a day to pause from work and worries, to meditate on the goodness of creation, and to deepen our relationship with the divine.
Community and Connection: The Sabbath is a communal experience, a time to gather with family and friends, to share meals, stories, and laughter, and to strengthen bonds of love and fellowship.
Acts of Kindness and Compassion: True Sabbath observance involves acts of love and service towards others. It's about extending grace and generosity to those in need, following the example of Jesus who healed and helped others even on the Sabbath.
Avoiding Pharisaic Legalism:
In the time of Jesus, the Pharisees were known for their strict adherence to Sabbath laws, often prioritizing rituals over compassion. Jesus, however, challenged this legalistic mindset, emphasizing the weightier matters of justice, mercy, and faithfulness (Matthew 23:23).
Heart Over Ritual: Jesus taught that the Sabbath was made for humanity's well-being, not as a burdensome set of rules to follow. He emphasized the importance of mercy and compassion over rigid adherence to regulations (Mark 2:27).
Freedom in Christ: While the Sabbath remains a sacred institution, the New Testament provides a fresh perspective.

True -- Sabbath was always a blessing for mankind.

JesusFollowerForever said:
In Christ, believers find freedom from legalistic observance of days and rituals

Indeed the man-made traditions added to Sabbath over the centuries did not come from scripture.

JesusFollowerForever said:
, focusing instead on a relationship of grace and faith.

Just as in Gen 2:2-3, and Ex 20:8-11

JesusFollowerForever said:
Grace and Forgiveness: Just as Jesus showed grace and forgiveness to those burdened by legalism, we too should extend grace to ourselves and others in our Sabbath observance.

And about taking God's name in vain and about pretty much everything. We should not refuse to extend grace to others.

JesusFollowerForever said:
The Sabbath is a sacred day given by God for rest, reflection, and worship. Observing it properly involves resting from work, connecting with community, and showing love and compassion to others.

Is 58:13 and refraining from secular activity - observing it as "The Holy day of the Lord"
Lev 23:2-4 and using it as a day of holy convocation.

RandyPNW · May 11, 2024

JesusFollowerForever said:
The Sabbath is a sacred day given by God for rest, reflection, and worship. Observing it properly involves resting from work, connecting with community, and showing love and compassion to others. However, it's essential to avoid the legalistic pitfalls of the Pharisees by prioritizing love, mercy, and grace in our Sabbath observance.

The "legalistic pitfall" for me is not failure to prioritize God's love. Rather, it is requiring observance of a law that is no longer in effect. There is no Sabbath requirement in the Gospel of Christ.

BobRyan · May 11, 2024

RandyPNW said:
The "legalistic pitfall" for me is not failure to prioritize God's love. Rather, it is requiring observance of a law that is no longer in effect.

For all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
ALL references to an actual weekly day of worship in the New Testament is always the 7th day Bible Sabbath. For example "every Sabbath" Acts 18:4

RandyPNW said:
There is no Sabbath requirement in the Gospel of Christ.

Rom 3:31 "do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law"
Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

1. "Do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7 - not quoted from even once in the NT - but still valid
2. Sabbath commandment quoted from in Rev 14:7 AND in the book of Acts. --

God's commandments are such that Eph 6:2 "Honor your father and mother is the first commandment with a promise" in that still valid , distinct, unit of TEN.

Christian denominations affirm the continued *"unit of TEN" for Christians today

[*]The Baptist Confession of Faith section 19
[*]The Westminster Confession of Faith section 19
[*]Voddie Baucham
[*]C.H. Spurgeon
[*]D.L. Moody
[*]Dies Domini by Pope John Paul II
[*]D. James Kennedy
[*]R.C. Sproul
[*]many others as well..

Mercy Shown · May 23, 2024

JesusFollowerForever said:
The Sabbath is a sacred day of rest, deeply rooted in religious traditions, notably Judaism and Christianity. It is typically observed on the seventh day of the week, which is Saturday for Jews and some Christian denominations.
Understanding the Sabbath:
The Sabbath finds its origins in the creation narrative of the book of Genesis, where it's recounted that God rested on the seventh day after creating the world. This act of divine rest sanctified the day and established the pattern for humanity's observance.
The giving of the Sabbath as a commandment is central to the religious laws outlined in the Old Testament. In Exodus 20:8-11, it's enshrined as one of the Ten Commandments, urging believers to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. This commandment underscores the importance of setting aside a day for rest, worship, and spiritual renewal.
Why was it Given?
The Sabbath was given as a gift to humanity, providing a regular opportunity for physical, emotional, and spiritual rejuvenation. It serves as a time to pause from the demands of daily life, to reflect on our relationship with the divine, and to reconnect with ourselves and our loved ones.
How to Follow it Properly with Love:
True Sabbath observance involves more than mere ritualistic adherence to rules and regulations. It's about embracing the spirit of the Sabbath with love and reverence.
Rest and Reflection: The essence of Sabbath observance lies in rest, not just physically but also mentally and spiritually. It's a day to pause from work and worries, to meditate on the goodness of creation, and to deepen our relationship with the divine.
Community and Connection: The Sabbath is a communal experience, a time to gather with family and friends, to share meals, stories, and laughter, and to strengthen bonds of love and fellowship.
Acts of Kindness and Compassion: True Sabbath observance involves acts of love and service towards others. It's about extending grace and generosity to those in need, following the example of Jesus who healed and helped others even on the Sabbath.
Avoiding Pharisaic Legalism:
In the time of Jesus, the Pharisees were known for their strict adherence to Sabbath laws, often prioritizing rituals over compassion. Jesus, however, challenged this legalistic mindset, emphasizing the weightier matters of justice, mercy, and faithfulness (Matthew 23:23).
Heart Over Ritual: Jesus taught that the Sabbath was made for humanity's well-being, not as a burdensome set of rules to follow. He emphasized the importance of mercy and compassion over rigid adherence to regulations (Mark 2:27).
Freedom in Christ: While the Sabbath remains a sacred institution, the New Testament provides a fresh perspective. In Christ, believers find freedom from legalistic observance of days and rituals, focusing instead on a relationship of grace and faith.
Grace and Forgiveness: Just as Jesus showed grace and forgiveness to those burdened by legalism, we too should extend grace to ourselves and others in our Sabbath observance. What matters most is the sincerity of our hearts and our desire to honor God and love our neighbors.

The Sabbath is a sacred day given by God for rest, reflection, and worship. Observing it properly involves resting from work, connecting with community, and showing love and compassion to others. However, it's essential to avoid the legalistic pitfalls of the Pharisees by prioritizing love, mercy, and grace in our Sabbath observance.

This is the best definition of the Sabbath I have seen so far. Now I would ad, a person should not judge their brother's and sisters in Christ if they do not believe as that person does. Each Christian rises of falls before His master and we are not the master of anyone.

It is disturbing when Christianity is focused upon one point of doctrine until the very foundation of Christianity is lost and that is Christ our righteousness. Until we by faith submit completely to Christ and His righteousness for our salvation, all else is moot.

Our salvation if found alone in Christ: Christ plus nothing. As the hymn states: This is my story, this is my song, praising my savior al the day long.
From salvation flows all other blessings and rest.

BobRyan · May 24, 2024

Our salvation is in Christ - but we are still told not to commit adultery, we are told to honor parents, keep Sabbath and we are told not to take God's name in vain.

Rev 14:12 the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus.

Mercy Shown · Jun 10, 2024

BobRyan said:
Our salvation is in Christ - but we are still told not to commit adultery, we are told to honor parents, keep Sabbath and we are told not to take God's name in vain.

Rev 14:12 the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus.

We are also told to be as perfect as God.

Bro.T · Jun 10, 2024

Jesus say in (Mat.7:21) “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven”. For students to succeed in school, students learn to follow their teachers' instructions, and learn their lessons carefully. But few apply this method when they are dealing with the word of God. Is Jesus your Lord? Then why don’t you do the things he says. (Luke 6:46) “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say”? He told the world plainly: (Ex 20:8-10) (v.8) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. (v.9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: (v.10) “But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God”.

Paul say in 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments. But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague! They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the Bible or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family or maybe they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.

The Sabbath Day of the Lord -God of the Bible. (Gen.2:2-5) (v.2) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. (v.3) And God blessed the seventh day (every seventh day of the week is a blessed and holy day) and sanctified it (it is a day that is separated (sanctified) for a purpose) because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (v.5) “and there was not a man to till the ground.” There was not a Jew, Catholic, Baptist, or Seventh Day Adventist; in fact, there was not a Christian when He constituted the Sabbath Day!

In the scriptures it's written in (Lev.23:3) “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, an holy convocation;” He said on the Sabbath day that you should also have an holy convocation, which means holy gathering or simply put, go to church. Remember in Acts 7: 38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Mercy Shown · Jun 10, 2024

Bro.T said:
Jesus say in (Mat.7:21) “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven”. For students to succeed in school, students learn to follow their teachers' instructions, and learn their lessons carefully. But few apply this method when they are dealing with the word of God. Is Jesus your Lord? Then why don’t you do the things he says. (Luke 6:46) “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say”? He told the world plainly: (Ex 20:8-10) (v.8) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. (v.9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: (v.10) “But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God”.

Paul say in 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments. But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague! They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the Bible or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family or maybe they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.

The Sabbath Day of the Lord -God of the Bible. (Gen.2:2-5) (v.2) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. (v.3) And God blessed the seventh day (every seventh day of the week is a blessed and holy day) and sanctified it (it is a day that is separated (sanctified) for a purpose) because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (v.5) “and there was not a man to till the ground.” There was not a Jew, Catholic, Baptist, or Seventh Day Adventist; in fact, there was not a Christian when He constituted the Sabbath Day!

In the scriptures it's written in (Lev.23:3) “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, an holy convocation;” He said on the Sabbath day that you should also have an holy convocation, which means holy gathering or simply put, go to church. Remember in Acts 7: 38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

The issue is not whether you observe feast days and sabbaths. The issue is why. I Christ is your righteousness and has perfected you forever by His one sacrifice while making you holy then why do you observe sabbaths and feast days?

Bro.T · Jun 11, 2024

Mercy Shown said:
The issue is not whether you observe feast days and sabbaths. The issue is why. I Christ is your righteousness and has perfected you forever by His one sacrifice while making you holy then why do you observe sabbaths and feast days?

Yes Jesus is our righteousness, and Jesus kept these feast alone with the apostles and prophets. Jesus is the one who gave us these feast to keep through out our generation, because these feast
are the plan of God is outlined in Leviticus chapter 23rd chapter. When we begin to read this chapter we will find the Lord's weekly Sabbath and also the Lord's High and Holy Days. Each High Day has a very important meaning, and if you are familiar with them you simply know the plan of God. These Holydays represent the future and present time, and are a shadow of good things to come, meaning some of these Holy Days have not came yet.

Remember the Apostle Paul and other Apostles didn’t do away with the Lord’s feasts. To the contrary, they knew the importance of these days and continued to observe them, even after Jesus was resurrected. Paul said, “...I must by all means keep this feast...” (Acts 18:21) and it is also written, “And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of Unleavened Bread...” (Acts 20: 6). Obviously Paul understood what a lot of people don’t understand today, and that is The Feast of Unleavened Bread is to be observed “by an ordinance forever” (Exodus 12:17). This observance is so important to God; he issued it with the death penalty if ignored. “...for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel” (Exodus 12:15).

Many people who choose to ignore this feast should reexamine their teaching. Unfortunately, the majority of people (many are called but few are chosen) have not learned that there is only one true way to worship God. We leave you with the same warning Jesus gave to his Apostles, “...Take heed and beware of the leaven (doctrine) of the Pharisees and Sadducees” (Matthew 16:6, 12). Observing this great feast is a sign that you are worshipping the true God correctly. Praise God! Remember Jesus says in Hebrews 13: 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Mercy Shown · Jun 11, 2024

Bro.T said:
Yes Jesus is our righteousness, and Jesus kept these feast alone with the apostles and prophets. Jesus is the one who gave us these feast to keep through out our generation, because these feast
are the plan of God is outlined in Leviticus chapter 23rd chapter. When we begin to read this chapter we will find the Lord's weekly Sabbath and also the Lord's High and Holy Days. Each High Day has a very important meaning, and if you are familiar with them you simply know the plan of God. These Holydays represent the future and present time, and are a shadow of good things to come, meaning some of these Holy Days have not came yet.

Remember the Apostle Paul and other Apostles didn’t do away with the Lord’s feasts. To the contrary, they knew the importance of these days and continued to observe them, even after Jesus was resurrected. Paul said, “...I must by all means keep this feast...” (Acts 18:21) and it is also written, “And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of Unleavened Bread...” (Acts 20: 6). Obviously Paul understood what a lot of people don’t understand today, and that is The Feast of Unleavened Bread is to be observed “by an ordinance forever” (Exodus 12:17). This observance is so important to God; he issued it with the death penalty if ignored. “...for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel” (Exodus 12:15).

Many people who choose to ignore this feast should reexamine their teaching. Unfortunately, the majority of people (many are called but few are chosen) have not learned that there is only one true way to worship God. We leave you with the same warning Jesus gave to his Apostles, “...Take heed and beware of the leaven (doctrine) of the Pharisees and Sadducees” (Matthew 16:6, 12). Observing this great feast is a sign that you are worshipping the true God correctly. Praise God! Remember Jesus says in Hebrews 13: 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Do you observe these feast days to be saved?

Bro.T · Jun 12, 2024

Mercy Shown said:
Do you observe these feast days to be saved?

Absolutely, I wouldn't teach them and not do them my self. Roman Christianity is not going to teach these things, according to what Paul says in Roman 9: 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

For what purpose did the Lord choose the children of Israel? (Exodus 19: 1-6) Let's look at the 5th & 6th vs.; "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6th vs.) and ye shall be unto me a Kingdom of Priest, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
This is priest nation is to teach the rest of the Son's and daughters of Adam.

How can one who is not of the lineage of Israel, become partakers of the covenant of God? (Ephesians 2:11-22) Let's look at the 11th through 13th verses. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in the time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision in the flesh made by hands; (12th vs.) That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenant of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: (13th vs.) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."

bling · Jun 12, 2024

Some verses to keep in mind:

Col. 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

Ro. 14: 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

Do you have a problem with me considering every day alike?

Jesus said: Matt. 12: 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent?

Sabbath Worship

I fully believe we should all keep all Sabbaths, but can never get answers from those that believe in Saturday worship only the answers to my questions:

1. Is a Sabbath a Saturday or is Saturday a Sabbath with other days also Sabbaths like: Passover and the day of Atonement and every day in the year of Jubilee?

2. Are Christians today to be like the regular Jews of the Old Testament or are we to be like the priestly tribe of the Old Testament?

3. Are Christians today to be that nation of priests (Ex. 19:6, 1 Peter 2:9) and not just a Jewish like nation?

4. Did the Priests offer up even more sacrifices and were they doing more worshipping activities (some might describe as work) on the Sabbaths? If so were the Priests keeping the Sabbath Rest?

5. Is worship to God ever “work” by God’s definition?

6. We know van worship is offering up to God obedience to man’s commands, so could righteous worship be the offering up to God, obedience to God’s commands?

7. If Christians are Priests, the temple of God, carrying the altar with them (cross), and constantly offering up themselves as a living sacrifice then: when are Christians not worshipping and should they ever stop?

8. Did Christ expand the Old Testament commands to include our thoughts and lots more actions?

9. For the Priests what is the Sabbath Rest and so what is the Sabbath Rest to be for Christians?

10. Some of the Jewish scholars prior to Christ seemed to have discussed (records are not perfect on this) that there was a coming “Age of Jubilee”, do you see that description fitting the Christian Dispensation we are part of now?

I think the priests did follow the Sabbath Rest since “worship” is not work and the priests were to worship and not work all the time (the other Jews were to support them). By increasing the commands on Christians and providing a constant partner (the Spirit), Christian’s today can be in constant worship as long as what you are doing is in obedience to God’s commands and that obedience is offered up as worship, so we are in the Sabbath Rest. To suggest today we just do “Sabbath Rest” one day a week is also to suggest the other 6 days are ours?

Mercy Shown · Jun 12, 2024

Bro.T said:
Absolutely, I wouldn't teach them and not do them my self. Roman Christianity is not going to teach these things, according to what Paul says in Roman 9: 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

For what purpose did the Lord choose the children of Israel? (Exodus 19: 1-6) Let's look at the 5th & 6th vs.; "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6th vs.) and ye shall be unto me a Kingdom of Priest, and a holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Take a look at what Peter was telling the Jews, quoting Moses in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
This is priest nation is to teach the rest of the Son's and daughters of Adam.

How can one who is not of the lineage of Israel, become partakers of the covenant of God? (Ephesians 2:11-22) Let's look at the 11th through 13th verses. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in the time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision in the flesh made by hands; (12th vs.) That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenant of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: (13th vs.) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."

So, your religion includes elements of Judaism. What parts of Judaism do you not observe besides animal sacrifice?

Bro.T · Jun 13, 2024

Mercy Shown said:
So, your religion includes elements of Judaism. What parts of Judaism do you not observe besides animal sacrifice?

I wouldn't use that word Judaism, because that refers to a different group of people, who called themselves Jews. The Lord warn us about them in Revelation 3: 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

My purpose is to teach the uncut word of God according to the Prophets (Old Testament) and the Apostles (New Testament). We observe the Lord’s Sabbath Day, the Lord’s Feast Days (as outlined in Leviticus 23rd chapter), and the Lord’s Dietary Law (as outlined in Leviticus 11th chapter). We teach and observe the Royal Law, which is the Ten Commandments.

We also believe in the resurrection and that Jesus is the King of Israel who will rule over the House of Jacob forever. We believe Jesus is the God of all people and his house “shall be a house of prayer for all people”. (Isaiah 56:7)

Bro.T · Jun 13, 2024

bling said:
Some verses to keep in mind:

Col. 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

Ro. 14: 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

Do you have a problem with me considering every day alike?

Jesus said: Matt. 12: 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent?

Sabbath Worship

I fully believe we should all keep all Sabbaths, but can never get answers from those that believe in Saturday worship only the answers to my questions:

1. Is a Sabbath a Saturday or is Saturday a Sabbath with other days also Sabbaths like: Passover and the day of Atonement and every day in the year of Jubilee?

The book say in Exodus 20: 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 but the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

There was a time when the days was just numbers and not names of the week. The plan of God is outlined in Leviticus chapter 23. When we begin to read this chapter we will find the Lord's weekly Sabbath and also the Lord's High and Holy Days. Each High Day has a very important meaning, and if you are familiar with them you simply know the plan of God. These Holydays represent the future and present time, and are a shadow of good things to come, meaning some of these Holy Days have not came yet. In Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Notice, once again the book states these are the feasts of the Lord, and they are Holy gatherings and must be observed in their season. We cannot observe these days when we get ready. They must be observed when the Lord says they must be observed.

bling said:
2. Are Christians today to be like the regular Jews of the Old Testament or are we to be like the priestly tribe of the Old Testament?

3. Are Christians today to be that nation of priests (Ex. 19:6, 1 Peter 2:9) and not just a Jewish like nation?

4. Did the Priests offer up even more sacrifices and were they doing more worshipping activities (some might describe as work) on the Sabbaths? If so were the Priests keeping the Sabbath Rest?

5. Is worship to God ever “work” by God’s definition?

6. We know van worship is offering up to God obedience to man’s commands, so could righteous worship be the offering up to God, obedience to God’s commands?

7. If Christians are Priests, the temple of God, carrying the altar with them (cross), and constantly offering up themselves as a living sacrifice then: when are Christians not worshipping and should they ever stop?

8. Did Christ expand the Old Testament commands to include our thoughts and lots more actions?

9. For the Priests what is the Sabbath Rest and so what is the Sabbath Rest to be for Christians?

10. Some of the Jewish scholars prior to Christ seemed to have discussed (records are not perfect on this) that there was a coming “Age of Jubilee”, do you see that description fitting the Christian Dispensation we are part of now?

I think the priests did follow the Sabbath Rest since “worship” is not work and the priests were to worship and not work all the time (the other Jews were to support them). By increasing the commands on Christians and providing a constant partner (the Spirit), Christian’s today can be in constant worship as long as what you are doing is in obedience to God’s commands and that obedience is offered up as worship, so we are in the Sabbath Rest. To suggest today we just do “Sabbath Rest” one day a week is also to suggest the other 6 days are ours?

bling · Jun 13, 2024

Bro.T said:
The book say in Exodus 20: 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 but the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

There was a time when the days was just numbers and not names of the week. The plan of God is outlined in Leviticus chapter 23. When we begin to read this chapter we will find the Lord's weekly Sabbath and also the Lord's High and Holy Days. Each High Day has a very important meaning, and if you are familiar with them you simply know the plan of God. These Holydays represent the future and present time, and are a shadow of good things to come, meaning some of these Holy Days have not came yet. In Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Notice, once again the book states these are the feasts of the Lord, and they are Holy gatherings and must be observed in their season. We cannot observe these days when we get ready. They must be observed when the Lord says they must be observed.

I consider everyday alike.
We are in the Jubilee age.

Mercy Shown · Jun 13, 2024

Bro.T said:
I wouldn't use that word Judaism, because that refers to a different group of people, who called themselves Jews. The Lord warn us about them in Revelation 3: 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

My purpose is to teach the uncut word of God according to the Prophets (Old Testament) and the Apostles (New Testament). We observe the Lord’s Sabbath Day, the Lord’s Feast Days (as outlined in Leviticus 23rd chapter), and the Lord’s Dietary Law (as outlined in Leviticus 11th chapter). We teach and observe the Royal Law, which is the Ten Commandments.

We also believe in the resurrection and that Jesus is the King of Israel who will rule over the House of Jacob forever. We believe Jesus is the God of all people and his house “shall be a house of prayer for all people”. (Isaiah 56:7)

How do you see the interaction between faith, grace, and works? Do you also believe those who do not keep the feast days will forfeit salvation?

Bro.T · Jun 15, 2024

Mercy Shown said:
How do you see the interaction between faith, grace, and works? Do you also believe those who do not keep the feast days will forfeit salvation?

No! But by not keeping the Commandments the laws, which includes the weekly Sabbath and High Sabbaths you will forfeit coming in up in the first resurrection. Most people don't know that theirs two resurrection. Let's take a look at this in Revelation 20: 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Theirs also thousand yrs to reign with Christ. This is what happen to those who do not keep those Commandments, Statues and Judgements. Let's skip down in Revelation to verse 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Bro.T · Jun 15, 2024

bling said:
I consider everyday alike.
We are in the Jubilee age.

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. (Revelation 22: 11)

"Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).

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