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<blockquote data-quote="TheCabinetGuy" data-source="post: 77668192" data-attributes="member: 455971"><p>The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all separate, yet divine. Yet, it isn't 3 Gods, but one. And to further complicate things, the Spirit is seven-in-one. </p><p>God reveals himself as the Father, through his word (which became flesh as the Son), and by his Spirit.</p><p>Arianism denies the preincarnate deity of Christ, yet Christ said, "I am the first and the last" and "Now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed."</p><p>Oneness and Modalism denies the separateness of the 3, yet Christ said, "No one knows the day or hour... not even the Son, but only the Father" and "The Father is greater than I." The Son is fully divine yet fully human, and part of being human is not knowing everything. Though Christ is seated at the right hand of the Ancient of Days, and all authority in heaven and earth has been given to the Son, the all-knowing attribute is exclusive to the Father alone.</p><p>The Holy Spirit has also been called in multiple passages the "Spirit of Jesus." So these 3 are perfectly one.</p><p>Some hold to the view that the Spirit is not a person, but simply God's power (Binitarianism). But if that were so, then how does the Spirit have the ability to speak and counsel us? Dare I suggest that the Spirit is a... spirit? </p><p></p><p>Another great passage to ponder is Zechariah 12:10. God is speaking, and he is referring to the pierced one as both "me" and "him." Keep in mind that this is from the Old Testament folks.</p><p></p><p>Therefore, the Trinitarian view is the best way to describe the Godhead. All other "isms" just don't work.</p><p></p><p>Hope that helps...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCabinetGuy, post: 77668192, member: 455971"] The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all separate, yet divine. Yet, it isn't 3 Gods, but one. And to further complicate things, the Spirit is seven-in-one. God reveals himself as the Father, through his word (which became flesh as the Son), and by his Spirit. Arianism denies the preincarnate deity of Christ, yet Christ said, "I am the first and the last" and "Now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed." Oneness and Modalism denies the separateness of the 3, yet Christ said, "No one knows the day or hour... not even the Son, but only the Father" and "The Father is greater than I." The Son is fully divine yet fully human, and part of being human is not knowing everything. Though Christ is seated at the right hand of the Ancient of Days, and all authority in heaven and earth has been given to the Son, the all-knowing attribute is exclusive to the Father alone. The Holy Spirit has also been called in multiple passages the "Spirit of Jesus." So these 3 are perfectly one. Some hold to the view that the Spirit is not a person, but simply God's power (Binitarianism). But if that were so, then how does the Spirit have the ability to speak and counsel us? Dare I suggest that the Spirit is a... spirit? Another great passage to ponder is Zechariah 12:10. God is speaking, and he is referring to the pierced one as both "me" and "him." Keep in mind that this is from the Old Testament folks. Therefore, the Trinitarian view is the best way to describe the Godhead. All other "isms" just don't work. Hope that helps... [/QUOTE]
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