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<blockquote data-quote="Malleeboy" data-source="post: 77361330" data-attributes="member: 436627"><p>Phillip,</p><p></p><p>Reserve powers are exercised outside of advice from the FEC or PM.</p><p>Kerr as GG sacked Whitlam under reserve powers, without either consulting the Queen nor PM.</p><p>(In case you think this was a one off, State Governers have sacked Premiers using Reserve Powers as well.)</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 40px">While the reserve power to dismiss a government has not been used in the United Kingdom since 1834, this power has been exercised more recently in Australia, on two occasions:</p> <p style="margin-left: 40px"></p> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">On 13 May 1932, when the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_New_South_Wales" target="_blank">Governor of New South Wales</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Game" target="_blank">Sir Philip Game</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lang_Dismissal_Crisis" target="_blank">dismissed the Government of New South Wales</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">On 11 November 1975, when the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor-General_of_Australia" target="_blank">Governor-General of Australia</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerr_(governor-general)" target="_blank">Sir John Kerr</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis" target="_blank">dismissed the Commonwealth Government</a>.</li> </ol> <p style="margin-left: 40px">In both cases an election was held very soon afterwards and, again in both cases, the dismissed government was massively defeated by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_election" target="_blank">popular vote</a>.</p> <p style="margin-left: 40px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 40px">In Queensland in 1987, during a tense period of leadership succession, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Queensland" target="_blank">Governor of Queensland</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Campbell_(judge)" target="_blank">Sir Walter Campbell</a>, exercised reserve power in declining to follow the advice of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_of_Queensland" target="_blank">Premier</a>, Sir <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen" target="_blank">Joh Bjelke-Petersen</a>. Campbell initially refused to redistribute ministerial portfolios on the sole advice of the premier, who lacked the confidence of his cabinet. Subsequently, during a period when Queensland had a "Premier who is not leader" and the governing party had a "Leader who is not Premier",<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_power#cite_note-4" target="_blank">[4]</a> there was speculation on the potential exercise of vice-regal reserve power by Campbell, in dismissing the premier in the absence of a parliamentary <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_of_no_confidence" target="_blank">motion of no confidence</a>. Ultimately, Campbell was praised for his handling of the undesirable situation.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_power#cite_note-5" target="_blank">[5]</a></p><p></p><p>I don't think the GG will listen to the advice of the Voice, it is just highlights how over broad the wording is.</p><p>The Voice has the constitutional right to make such an approach, the GG has to accept the advice, and then choose to ignore it.</p><p>Whilst the PM will respond that this will never happen, I can see Lidia Thorpe types on the Voice, doing so just to make a pointless point. (eg attempting to amend the swearing in oath to the Senate)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Malleeboy, post: 77361330, member: 436627"] Phillip, Reserve powers are exercised outside of advice from the FEC or PM. Kerr as GG sacked Whitlam under reserve powers, without either consulting the Queen nor PM. (In case you think this was a one off, State Governers have sacked Premiers using Reserve Powers as well.) [INDENT=2]While the reserve power to dismiss a government has not been used in the United Kingdom since 1834, this power has been exercised more recently in Australia, on two occasions:[/INDENT] [INDENT=2][/INDENT] [LIST=1] [*]On 13 May 1932, when the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_New_South_Wales']Governor of New South Wales[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Game']Sir Philip Game[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lang_Dismissal_Crisis']dismissed the Government of New South Wales[/URL]. [*]On 11 November 1975, when the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor-General_of_Australia']Governor-General of Australia[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerr_(governor-general)']Sir John Kerr[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis']dismissed the Commonwealth Government[/URL]. [/LIST] [INDENT=2]In both cases an election was held very soon afterwards and, again in both cases, the dismissed government was massively defeated by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_election']popular vote[/URL].[/INDENT] [INDENT=2][/INDENT] [INDENT=2]In Queensland in 1987, during a tense period of leadership succession, the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Queensland']Governor of Queensland[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Campbell_(judge)']Sir Walter Campbell[/URL], exercised reserve power in declining to follow the advice of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_of_Queensland']Premier[/URL], Sir [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen']Joh Bjelke-Petersen[/URL]. Campbell initially refused to redistribute ministerial portfolios on the sole advice of the premier, who lacked the confidence of his cabinet. Subsequently, during a period when Queensland had a "Premier who is not leader" and the governing party had a "Leader who is not Premier",[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_power#cite_note-4'][4][/URL] there was speculation on the potential exercise of vice-regal reserve power by Campbell, in dismissing the premier in the absence of a parliamentary [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_of_no_confidence']motion of no confidence[/URL]. Ultimately, Campbell was praised for his handling of the undesirable situation.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_power#cite_note-5'][5][/URL][/INDENT] I don't think the GG will listen to the advice of the Voice, it is just highlights how over broad the wording is. The Voice has the constitutional right to make such an approach, the GG has to accept the advice, and then choose to ignore it. Whilst the PM will respond that this will never happen, I can see Lidia Thorpe types on the Voice, doing so just to make a pointless point. (eg attempting to amend the swearing in oath to the Senate) [/QUOTE]
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