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<blockquote data-quote="GodLovesCats" data-source="post: 77263281" data-attributes="member: 425502"><p>For me it is simply the fact that guns were only invented to kill animals and other people. Whether someone is using a handgun or an assault rifle makes no difference; the only reason to have one is attempt or commit murder unless you are a nomad killing animals for food.</p><p></p><p>I have told Republicans many times the Second Amendment only gives us the right to keep and bear "arms" - not any old kind of weapon. There could be only one type of gun on the planet and, if interpreted literally, that constitutional right is not taken away. Republican gun lovers say they are unwilling to accept my argument because of a SCOTUS case (Heller) <strong>that actually proves my point.</strong> I think they are just being greedy because many of them own semiautomatic and/or fully automatic rifles.</p><p></p><p>We know Jesus condemns greed and loving the world. We know people can't have two masters. So I do not understand why many people who identify themselves as Christians get hung up on possessing a variety of guns.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are describing the same party that opposes all forms of bigotry. Being gay, lesbian, or bisexual may be a sin, but Jesus still loves those people as much as he loves us. Abortion may be a sin, but Jesus still loves women who get abortions as much as he loves girls and women who choose to give birth. He does not hate anyone who is a different human race, female, or in favor of equality and democracy. The other party has always given me the impression they only care about subjecting women and weaklings to suffering even though they claim to be "pro-life" (which is not true, as evidenced by their hypocritical obsession with firearms and support of the death penalty).</p><p></p><p>I have argued in threads about abortion you are not pro-life if you only care about the fact a human fetus became a baby. To truly be pro-life, you must want everyone to automatically get comprehensive health care so that the baby nobody wanted will be healthy and live a long time. Jesus preached improving another person's quality of life, not forcing women to give birth for the sake of increasing the number of unwanted babies. I am still waiting for anti-choicers to explain why they think it is better to make any girl or woman suffer mentally and physically with no concern for what happens to the baby who never should have been conceived after his/her umbilical cord is cut.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GodLovesCats, post: 77263281, member: 425502"] For me it is simply the fact that guns were only invented to kill animals and other people. Whether someone is using a handgun or an assault rifle makes no difference; the only reason to have one is attempt or commit murder unless you are a nomad killing animals for food. I have told Republicans many times the Second Amendment only gives us the right to keep and bear "arms" - not any old kind of weapon. There could be only one type of gun on the planet and, if interpreted literally, that constitutional right is not taken away. Republican gun lovers say they are unwilling to accept my argument because of a SCOTUS case (Heller) [B]that actually proves my point.[/B] I think they are just being greedy because many of them own semiautomatic and/or fully automatic rifles. We know Jesus condemns greed and loving the world. We know people can't have two masters. So I do not understand why many people who identify themselves as Christians get hung up on possessing a variety of guns. You are describing the same party that opposes all forms of bigotry. Being gay, lesbian, or bisexual may be a sin, but Jesus still loves those people as much as he loves us. Abortion may be a sin, but Jesus still loves women who get abortions as much as he loves girls and women who choose to give birth. He does not hate anyone who is a different human race, female, or in favor of equality and democracy. The other party has always given me the impression they only care about subjecting women and weaklings to suffering even though they claim to be "pro-life" (which is not true, as evidenced by their hypocritical obsession with firearms and support of the death penalty). I have argued in threads about abortion you are not pro-life if you only care about the fact a human fetus became a baby. To truly be pro-life, you must want everyone to automatically get comprehensive health care so that the baby nobody wanted will be healthy and live a long time. Jesus preached improving another person's quality of life, not forcing women to give birth for the sake of increasing the number of unwanted babies. I am still waiting for anti-choicers to explain why they think it is better to make any girl or woman suffer mentally and physically with no concern for what happens to the baby who never should have been conceived after his/her umbilical cord is cut. [/QUOTE]
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