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<blockquote data-quote="Studyman" data-source="post: 77564113" data-attributes="member: 427618"><p>The religious philosophy that God creates man and gives them instruction in righteousness, <u>but withholds from them</u> the capacity to "Yield themselves" Servants to obey Him, is a popular religious philosophy promoted by "MANY" who come in His Name no doubt. But such a philosophy is a deception, if one trusts the Holy Scriptures <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-16/" target="_blank"> "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness</a>". According to Scriptures, we are <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ephesians-2-10/" target="_blank">created in Christ Jesus unto good works, <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">which God hath before ordained</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">that we should walk in them.</span></strong></a></p><p></p><p>A child is created to walk. God gives this child the capacity to learn how to do so. Sure, the child will stumble and fall, as is the design of God. Shall the child just give up, and listen to other voices telling him he will always stumble and always fall? That he doesn't have the capacity to walk because he falls during the learning process? Shall this child simply accept that he cannot walk, because he stumbles and falls? Such a teaching is a deception and against God.</p><p></p><p>Sinning (Disobedience) is a choice. Obedience is a choice. Getting up and trying again, is a choice. To preach otherwise, is to call both Jesus, and HIS Father a liar. Learning to walk is God's Will for His Children. They will learn to walk, by their stumbles and falls, or as it is written, "<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Hebrews-5-8/" target="_blank">Though he were a Son, <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">yet learned he obedience</span></strong> <u>by the things which he suffered</u></a>." It is not "Self-Serving" to rule over one's flesh, or to get up and try again. Just as it isn't self-serving to remove the beam out of our own eyes first.</p><p></p><p>Paul understood this and explained it perfectly for those who would trust Scriptures.</p><p></p><p>Phil. 3: <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-12/" target="_blank">12 <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Not as though I had already attained</span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">either were already perfect</span></strong>: but I follow after, if <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">that I may apprehend</span></strong> that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-13/" target="_blank">13 Brethren,<strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> I count not myself to have apprehended</span></strong>: <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">but <em>this</em> one thing </span></strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)"><em><strong>I do</strong></em></span>, <strong><span style="color: rgb(40, 50, 78)">forgetting those things <u>which are behind</u></span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">and <u>reaching forth</u> unto those things which are before,</span></strong></a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-14/" target="_blank">14 <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">I press toward the mark</span></strong> "<strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><u>for the prize</u>"</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">of the high calling of God</span></strong> "<strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">in" Christ Jesus.</span></strong></a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-15/" target="_blank">15 Let us therefore, <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)"><u>as many as be perfect</u></span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">be thus minded</span></strong>: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.</a></p><p></p><p>The Jesus "of the Bible" commands this. Matt. 5: <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-5-48/" target="_blank">48 <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">Be ye therefore perfect</span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.</span></strong></a></p><p></p><p>This is the Prize Paul pressed for. He didn't accept the preaching of the "Other voice" in the Garden God placed him in, who quotes some of God's Word, which convinced Eve God was a liar. He didn't accept, "I'm a sinner, and will always be a sinner" and can never be perfect, after His Redeemer said "Now Go and sin no more" and be ye perfect. This is Faith in Christ, Yes?</p><p></p><p>As Paul points out from the One True God "<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-2-6/" target="_blank">Who will render <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">to every man</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">according <u>to his deeds</u>:</span></strong></a></p><p></p><p>Rom. 2:<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-2-7/" target="_blank">7 <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">To them</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><u>who by</u> "patient continuance in well doing"</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">seek for</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">glory and honour and immortality</span></strong>, <strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">"eternal life</span></span></strong></a><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)"><strong>"</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p>Exactly like the Toddler<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-2-7/" target="_blank"> "who by patient continuance</a>" in striving to walk, will learn how to walk.</p><p></p><p>Remember, Jesus warned us not to be deceived by "MANY" who "come in His Name". There is only one religion on this planet that fits HIS description here. And it's not Islam, Buddhism or Atheists.</p><p></p><p>Trust the Holy Scriptures <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-16/" target="_blank">for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:</a><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-17/" target="_blank"> That the man of God <strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">may be perfect</span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">throughly furnished</span></strong> unto all good works.</a></p><p></p><p>Take Heed of "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord. Because as Paul teaches, <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Corinthians-11-13/" target="_blank">For such <em>are</em> false apostles, deceitful workers,<strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> transforming themselves</span></strong> into the apostles of Christ.</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Studyman, post: 77564113, member: 427618"] The religious philosophy that God creates man and gives them instruction in righteousness, [U]but withholds from them[/U] the capacity to "Yield themselves" Servants to obey Him, is a popular religious philosophy promoted by "MANY" who come in His Name no doubt. But such a philosophy is a deception, if one trusts the Holy Scriptures [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-16/'] "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness[/URL]". According to Scriptures, we are [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ephesians-2-10/']created in Christ Jesus unto good works, [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]which God hath before ordained[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]that we should walk in them.[/COLOR][/B][/URL] A child is created to walk. God gives this child the capacity to learn how to do so. Sure, the child will stumble and fall, as is the design of God. Shall the child just give up, and listen to other voices telling him he will always stumble and always fall? That he doesn't have the capacity to walk because he falls during the learning process? Shall this child simply accept that he cannot walk, because he stumbles and falls? Such a teaching is a deception and against God. Sinning (Disobedience) is a choice. Obedience is a choice. Getting up and trying again, is a choice. To preach otherwise, is to call both Jesus, and HIS Father a liar. Learning to walk is God's Will for His Children. They will learn to walk, by their stumbles and falls, or as it is written, "[URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Hebrews-5-8/']Though he were a Son, [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]yet learned he obedience[/COLOR][/B] [U]by the things which he suffered[/U][/URL]." It is not "Self-Serving" to rule over one's flesh, or to get up and try again. Just as it isn't self-serving to remove the beam out of our own eyes first. Paul understood this and explained it perfectly for those who would trust Scriptures. Phil. 3: [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-12/']12 [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Not as though I had already attained[/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]either were already perfect[/COLOR][/B]: but I follow after, if [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]that I may apprehend[/COLOR][/B] that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.[/URL] [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-13/']13 Brethren,[B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] I count not myself to have apprehended[/COLOR][/B]: [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]but [I]this[/I] one thing [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)][I][B]I do[/B][/I][/COLOR], [B][COLOR=rgb(40, 50, 78)]forgetting those things [U]which are behind[/U][/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]and [U]reaching forth[/U] unto those things which are before,[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-14/']14 [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]I press toward the mark[/COLOR][/B] "[B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][U]for the prize[/U]"[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]of the high calling of God[/COLOR][/B] "[B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]in" Christ Jesus.[/COLOR][/B][/URL] [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-3-15/']15 Let us therefore, [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)][U]as many as be perfect[/U][/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]be thus minded[/COLOR][/B]: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.[/URL] The Jesus "of the Bible" commands this. Matt. 5: [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-5-48/']48 [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]Be ye therefore perfect[/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.[/COLOR][/B][/URL] This is the Prize Paul pressed for. He didn't accept the preaching of the "Other voice" in the Garden God placed him in, who quotes some of God's Word, which convinced Eve God was a liar. He didn't accept, "I'm a sinner, and will always be a sinner" and can never be perfect, after His Redeemer said "Now Go and sin no more" and be ye perfect. This is Faith in Christ, Yes? As Paul points out from the One True God "[URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-2-6/']Who will render [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]to every man[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]according [U]to his deeds[/U]:[/COLOR][/B][/URL] Rom. 2:[URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-2-7/']7 [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]To them[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][U]who by[/U] "patient continuance in well doing"[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]seek for[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]glory and honour and immortality[/COLOR][/B], [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]"eternal life[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/URL][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)][B]"[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] Exactly like the Toddler[URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-2-7/'] "who by patient continuance[/URL]" in striving to walk, will learn how to walk. Remember, Jesus warned us not to be deceived by "MANY" who "come in His Name". There is only one religion on this planet that fits HIS description here. And it's not Islam, Buddhism or Atheists. Trust the Holy Scriptures [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-16/']for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:[/URL][URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Timothy-3-17/'] That the man of God [B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]may be perfect[/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]throughly furnished[/COLOR][/B] unto all good works.[/URL] Take Heed of "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord. Because as Paul teaches, [URL='https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Corinthians-11-13/']For such [I]are[/I] false apostles, deceitful workers,[B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] transforming themselves[/COLOR][/B] into the apostles of Christ.[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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