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Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.
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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77617430" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>It is a repeat in that we can look back and see this pattern of rising and falling empires or groups who moved away from God or even the life principles we know keep everything in order such as those of the West for example like 'Made in the image of God".</p><p></p><p>Which is basically the idea that humans themseves are weak and fallible and need something beyond themselves which is uncorruptable to guide us. When we move away from this we start to believe in our own feelings and desires as being god.</p><p></p><p>This was seen when the Pharaoh refused to acknowledge God and then they experienced the plagues and the deterioration of their society. Or even when the Isrealites rejected God and began to worship the Caananite idols where they began to suffer and their society broke down.</p><p></p><p>So we can see the signs that lead to this. In some ways the entire western civilisation is moving away from God and we are seeing the undermining of these long held truths and life principles like being made in Gods image and sacricing for others and the better good of all are breaking down.</p><p></p><p>People are becoming individualistic and more concerned with self, self pleasuring and hedonism. We see a rise in mental illness and people identifying with delusions based on subjective feelings that are made the basis for what is real and good. Hense rather than being united under one GOd and order we are divided into identity groups pitted at each other.</p><p></p><p>We become more tribal and that is when we become antagonistic and radical professing all sorts of lies as truths and dictating how everyone should be ordered. In other words we lose our moral compass and decend into whatever can be justified according to subjective feelings. If you look below the surface we will find a whole lot of debortuary and all sorts of crazy and horrible stuff going on.</p><p></p><p>So if this is the case then just like in the past when the majority of people moved completely away from God and Gods wrath came down I would expect the same to happen again as we move further and further away from God. I think we passed the tipping point around 20 years ago in most western societies. A concerted effort to reject God really began around the 60's.</p><p></p><p>Now most nations are pasing the 50% against God and this is reflected in the morals and ideology we are governed by which is rather quickly turning radical and unreal. So I think this is a repeat of past collapses but just on a much bigger scale because I think the West is so influential.</p><p></p><p>Whether the fall will come by self destruction and/or from outside forces such as conflicts with other cultures and the forces of nature brought on by destablizing things or from God Himself it's getting closer rather to that situation and will happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77617430, member: 342064"] It is a repeat in that we can look back and see this pattern of rising and falling empires or groups who moved away from God or even the life principles we know keep everything in order such as those of the West for example like 'Made in the image of God". Which is basically the idea that humans themseves are weak and fallible and need something beyond themselves which is uncorruptable to guide us. When we move away from this we start to believe in our own feelings and desires as being god. This was seen when the Pharaoh refused to acknowledge God and then they experienced the plagues and the deterioration of their society. Or even when the Isrealites rejected God and began to worship the Caananite idols where they began to suffer and their society broke down. So we can see the signs that lead to this. In some ways the entire western civilisation is moving away from God and we are seeing the undermining of these long held truths and life principles like being made in Gods image and sacricing for others and the better good of all are breaking down. People are becoming individualistic and more concerned with self, self pleasuring and hedonism. We see a rise in mental illness and people identifying with delusions based on subjective feelings that are made the basis for what is real and good. Hense rather than being united under one GOd and order we are divided into identity groups pitted at each other. We become more tribal and that is when we become antagonistic and radical professing all sorts of lies as truths and dictating how everyone should be ordered. In other words we lose our moral compass and decend into whatever can be justified according to subjective feelings. If you look below the surface we will find a whole lot of debortuary and all sorts of crazy and horrible stuff going on. So if this is the case then just like in the past when the majority of people moved completely away from God and Gods wrath came down I would expect the same to happen again as we move further and further away from God. I think we passed the tipping point around 20 years ago in most western societies. A concerted effort to reject God really began around the 60's. Now most nations are pasing the 50% against God and this is reflected in the morals and ideology we are governed by which is rather quickly turning radical and unreal. So I think this is a repeat of past collapses but just on a much bigger scale because I think the West is so influential. Whether the fall will come by self destruction and/or from outside forces such as conflicts with other cultures and the forces of nature brought on by destablizing things or from God Himself it's getting closer rather to that situation and will happen. [/QUOTE]
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