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Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.
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<blockquote data-quote="ViaCrucis" data-source="post: 77616898" data-attributes="member: 293637"><p>There is a strange myth, which people keep telling about how Rome fell. The funny thing about that myth is that if anyone has a working knowledge of Late Antiquity, and some basic interest in history generally--is that it's totally nonsense.</p><p></p><p>I mention this, because the whole "fall of empires" thing often comes down to this old myth about how Rome fell. But if we look at things historically, that's not really the pattern we see. </p><p></p><p>There probably are some common social factors we could find through that analysis--but I suspect it's not what people usually envision.</p><p></p><p>And that applies to Sodom as well, at least if one pays attention to it biblically, rather than impose what they think they know about Sodom. What people think the Bible says about Sodom, and what the Bible actually says about Sodom is actually quite stark in contrast. I've actually been mocked a few times for just quoting the Bible on this subject.</p><p></p><p>A society whose principles and values are not aligned with empathy, compassion, nor concerned with human life and flourishing is, of course, a deeply sick society. And, looking at the Bible--big picture--such is the sickness of the human condition. </p><p></p><p>So more importantly, I'd think, is how do we answer bigger questions, like, what is the <em>goal </em>of human society? What is its purpose, what is--let's bring a fancy Greek word into the conversation--the intended <em>telos </em>of human society? The end goal, the whole point, what is the destination toward which human society should be oriented.</p><p></p><p>Because depending on how we answer that, and talking about the means of getting it or hindering it, might make talk of Sodom and Gomorrah more relevant.</p><p></p><p>Ezekiel 16:49-50.</p><p></p><p>-CryptoLutheran</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ViaCrucis, post: 77616898, member: 293637"] There is a strange myth, which people keep telling about how Rome fell. The funny thing about that myth is that if anyone has a working knowledge of Late Antiquity, and some basic interest in history generally--is that it's totally nonsense. I mention this, because the whole "fall of empires" thing often comes down to this old myth about how Rome fell. But if we look at things historically, that's not really the pattern we see. There probably are some common social factors we could find through that analysis--but I suspect it's not what people usually envision. And that applies to Sodom as well, at least if one pays attention to it biblically, rather than impose what they think they know about Sodom. What people think the Bible says about Sodom, and what the Bible actually says about Sodom is actually quite stark in contrast. I've actually been mocked a few times for just quoting the Bible on this subject. A society whose principles and values are not aligned with empathy, compassion, nor concerned with human life and flourishing is, of course, a deeply sick society. And, looking at the Bible--big picture--such is the sickness of the human condition. So more importantly, I'd think, is how do we answer bigger questions, like, what is the [I]goal [/I]of human society? What is its purpose, what is--let's bring a fancy Greek word into the conversation--the intended [I]telos [/I]of human society? The end goal, the whole point, what is the destination toward which human society should be oriented. Because depending on how we answer that, and talking about the means of getting it or hindering it, might make talk of Sodom and Gomorrah more relevant. Ezekiel 16:49-50. -CryptoLutheran [/QUOTE]
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