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How long to rebuild civilisation after an all out nuclear war?
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 75157687" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>Wood-gas</strong></span></p><p>Wood gas could run agricultural zones and some cargo transport. It sounds crazy, but many cars during World War 2 were suddenly converted to running on wood. Well, more accurately, the wood is burned and the syn-gas fed through into the engine to burn the wood-gas. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas" target="_blank">The wiki explains</a>:-</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Germany produced Gazogene units for vehicles including cars, trucks, artillery tractors and even tanks, to preserve the limited supplies of fuel.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator#cite_note-1" target="_blank">[1]</a> Even in non-combatant countries, such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden" target="_blank">Sweden</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil" target="_blank">Brazil</a>, gasogene was popular, as oil became hard to obtain. In Brazil, a racer named <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_Landi" target="_blank">Chico Landi</a> won at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A3o_Paulo" target="_blank">São Paulo</a>‘s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aut%C3%B3dromo_Jos%C3%A9_Carlos_Pace" target="_blank">Interlagos</a> circuit in 1944, driving a wood gas-powered Alfa Romeo.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator#cite_note-Wolfe108-2" target="_blank">[2]</a></p><p></p><p>If there was any doubt, America’s <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Construction_of_a_Simplified_Wood_Gas_Generator_For_Fueling_Internal_Combustion_Engines_in_a_Petroleum_Emergency.pdf" target="_blank">FEMA even have a manual</a> on it for oil shortage emergencies. (And you can bet the government have wood gasifier kits in their survival bunkers.) During an oil shortage, most <em>personal</em> <em>local</em> transport would go back to cycling and rickshaws even some horse drawn carriages – for a while. But wood gasification could at least power farming and transport food to <em>feed</em> the nation.</p><p></p><p><strong>Dirtier emergency fuels like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_liquefaction" target="_blank">coal-to-liquids</a> might be used, </strong>which is not great from a climate point of view. But it might keep civilisation ticking over until other systems are up and running – like the emergency construction of electric trolley bus systems etc that might last longer.</p><p><img src="https://eclipsenow.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/1200px-adler_diplomat_3_gs_mit_holzgasgenerator-hinten_rechts.jpg?w=1024" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 75157687, member: 274355"] [SIZE=5][B]Wood-gas[/B][/SIZE] Wood gas could run agricultural zones and some cargo transport. It sounds crazy, but many cars during World War 2 were suddenly converted to running on wood. Well, more accurately, the wood is burned and the syn-gas fed through into the engine to burn the wood-gas. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas']The wiki explains[/URL]:- [INDENT]Germany produced Gazogene units for vehicles including cars, trucks, artillery tractors and even tanks, to preserve the limited supplies of fuel.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator#cite_note-1'][1][/URL] Even in non-combatant countries, such as [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden']Sweden[/URL] or [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil']Brazil[/URL], gasogene was popular, as oil became hard to obtain. In Brazil, a racer named [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_Landi']Chico Landi[/URL] won at [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A3o_Paulo']São Paulo[/URL]‘s [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aut%C3%B3dromo_Jos%C3%A9_Carlos_Pace']Interlagos[/URL] circuit in 1944, driving a wood gas-powered Alfa Romeo.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator#cite_note-Wolfe108-2'][2][/URL][/INDENT] If there was any doubt, America’s [URL='https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Construction_of_a_Simplified_Wood_Gas_Generator_For_Fueling_Internal_Combustion_Engines_in_a_Petroleum_Emergency.pdf']FEMA even have a manual[/URL] on it for oil shortage emergencies. (And you can bet the government have wood gasifier kits in their survival bunkers.) During an oil shortage, most [I]personal[/I] [I]local[/I] transport would go back to cycling and rickshaws even some horse drawn carriages – for a while. But wood gasification could at least power farming and transport food to [I]feed[/I] the nation. [B]Dirtier emergency fuels like [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_liquefaction']coal-to-liquids[/URL] might be used, [/B]which is not great from a climate point of view. But it might keep civilisation ticking over until other systems are up and running – like the emergency construction of electric trolley bus systems etc that might last longer. [IMG]https://eclipsenow.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/1200px-adler_diplomat_3_gs_mit_holzgasgenerator-hinten_rechts.jpg?w=1024[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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