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Could Vienna’s approach to affordable housing work in California?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 77668659" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>I wasn't referring to just this thread, I was speaking in general. A lot of the programs and policies that get discussed because "Country XYZ did it, and it worked great for them" fail to account for a variety of nuances.</p><p></p><p>Any young person who thinks "if we just had the same ABC policy as Country XYZ, then everything else would be the same, but I'd get this for free" is usually very mistaken.</p><p></p><p>The saying "the devil's in the details" was created for a reason. Perhaps voters should be interested in them.</p><p></p><p>That's how you end up with the "defund the police" debacles. A candidate gives lip service to a semantically overloaded phrase, and when people finding out the person they thought was their ally was actually basing it on a different definition than what they had in mind, it causes a rift.</p><p></p><p>See: Jacob Frey and Jenny Durkin getting booed and harassed because they said "well, no, defund the police just means redirecting some funds to other programs, we're not getting rid of police, what are you crazy?" (and the backlash that ensued)</p><p></p><p>So, worse?</p><p></p><p>I'm not afraid to say it lol. The US has a well-earned track record of trying to implement other ideas from other places, but doing so with a "ready fire aim" mentality that leaves out a lot of necessary guardrails.</p><p></p><p>A lot when the same faction that would advocate for something like this, would also claim that it's xenophobic to limit it to only citizens (and citizens who've lived in that particular city for 2+ years)</p><p></p><p>If you were to ask your average 23 year old Arts major about it, they'd have some very different expectations.</p><p></p><p>If I told them "Here's the 3 units you can pick from...they were all built in the 1930's, and have awful wallpaper and shag carpet, welcome home!", how do you think that would go?</p><p></p><p>Exactly, Vienna (as a city) predates the developed United States. Thus my comment about it being two different situations is still applicable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 77668659, member: 123415"] I wasn't referring to just this thread, I was speaking in general. A lot of the programs and policies that get discussed because "Country XYZ did it, and it worked great for them" fail to account for a variety of nuances. Any young person who thinks "if we just had the same ABC policy as Country XYZ, then everything else would be the same, but I'd get this for free" is usually very mistaken. The saying "the devil's in the details" was created for a reason. Perhaps voters should be interested in them. That's how you end up with the "defund the police" debacles. A candidate gives lip service to a semantically overloaded phrase, and when people finding out the person they thought was their ally was actually basing it on a different definition than what they had in mind, it causes a rift. See: Jacob Frey and Jenny Durkin getting booed and harassed because they said "well, no, defund the police just means redirecting some funds to other programs, we're not getting rid of police, what are you crazy?" (and the backlash that ensued) So, worse? I'm not afraid to say it lol. The US has a well-earned track record of trying to implement other ideas from other places, but doing so with a "ready fire aim" mentality that leaves out a lot of necessary guardrails. A lot when the same faction that would advocate for something like this, would also claim that it's xenophobic to limit it to only citizens (and citizens who've lived in that particular city for 2+ years) If you were to ask your average 23 year old Arts major about it, they'd have some very different expectations. If I told them "Here's the 3 units you can pick from...they were all built in the 1930's, and have awful wallpaper and shag carpet, welcome home!", how do you think that would go? Exactly, Vienna (as a city) predates the developed United States. Thus my comment about it being two different situations is still applicable. [/QUOTE]
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