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Could Vienna’s approach to affordable housing work in California?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 77667993" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>Not in this particular thread, but it has parallels (as do most European social welfare programs) to this conversation...</p><p></p><p>In that, younger people here get the readers digest version of social programs in other countries by US political factions (that highlight only the "good parts"), and then back those same politicians who are pushing for unsustainable versions of said programs that lack necessary prudence and guardrails that make those programs sustainable in our country.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which means, they won't be voting for an actual "Vienna Model"</p><p></p><p>They'll be voting for this</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/21/aoc-bernie-sanders-housing-new-deal[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-and-ocasio-cortez-reintroduce-green-new-deal-for-public-housing-act/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Under the misguided premise of "Well, it worked in Vienna...and this is the same thing right??"</p><p></p><p>While conveniently ignoring the fact that Vienna is able to make that work because</p><p>A) There's extremely strict immigration requirements for the entire country, and very strict residency requirements. (which means they'll have to compromise on some of their positions on immigration)</p><p>B) People there are willing to "settle" for a relatively "plain" place to live.</p><p>C) This was a decision Vienna made a long time ago, so a lot of the land was already allocated for housing, which made it possible to be a "walking city". And it allowed for it to become the norm where people live in the same city they work in. That's not going to be the case for a lot of major US cities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 77667993, member: 123415"] Not in this particular thread, but it has parallels (as do most European social welfare programs) to this conversation... In that, younger people here get the readers digest version of social programs in other countries by US political factions (that highlight only the "good parts"), and then back those same politicians who are pushing for unsustainable versions of said programs that lack necessary prudence and guardrails that make those programs sustainable in our country. Which means, they won't be voting for an actual "Vienna Model" They'll be voting for this [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/21/aoc-bernie-sanders-housing-new-deal[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-and-ocasio-cortez-reintroduce-green-new-deal-for-public-housing-act/[/URL] Under the misguided premise of "Well, it worked in Vienna...and this is the same thing right??" While conveniently ignoring the fact that Vienna is able to make that work because A) There's extremely strict immigration requirements for the entire country, and very strict residency requirements. (which means they'll have to compromise on some of their positions on immigration) B) People there are willing to "settle" for a relatively "plain" place to live. C) This was a decision Vienna made a long time ago, so a lot of the land was already allocated for housing, which made it possible to be a "walking city". And it allowed for it to become the norm where people live in the same city they work in. That's not going to be the case for a lot of major US cities. [/QUOTE]
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