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Climate threats = FIRES: Famine, Instability, Refugees, Extinctions, Super-storms
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 77640159" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p>Sure it's a <em>term </em>of <em>normal </em>words, <em>not </em>proper nouns.</p><p></p><p>But after reading a paper on the latest climate modelling for a nuclear winter - I personally think it deserves proper noun status.</p><p>Either that or just screaming the thing in full caps - like "FULL SCALE NUCLEAR WAR!" every time we mention it.</p><p></p><p>The chocolate and coffee remarks were just highlighting that many first world commentators think a price rise in these luxury goods signifies true hardship. I was kind of ironically juxtaposing them against the real horror.</p><p></p><p>What we might do to ourselves.</p><p></p><p>Have you read the climate science modelling a nuclear winter?</p><p></p><p>For the record - I am not a 'climate doomer.' Indeed - <a href="https://eclipsenow.wordpress.com/doomers/#a-weird-alliance" target="_blank">there's even evidence that big oil are sponsoring climate doomers</a> because when someone truly believes its the end of the world and all hopeless - they give up activism! That's not me. See my page on doomers at the link above - where I explain that a suicide on a doomer forum I was on decades ago changed the rest of my life. I'm an optimist!</p><p></p><p>BUT if we push ALL the big red buttons at once?</p><p></p><p>Here's my layman's guide to TEOTWAWKI - a paragraph based on the latest science.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Australia's 2019 mega-fire smoke provided more certainty:</strong> There has been a bit of a complicated history modelling nuclear-winter. Ironically, they have new confidence in modelling nuclear <em>winter </em>because by studying <em>global</em> <em>warming</em>. Recent studies of the climate-disaster 2019 Australian mega-fires gave them more data on smoke. The black carbon in smoke behaves a bit like a hot air balloon if it gets high enough from a big enough initial fire. The sun heats it and lifts it up above the rain clouds into the stratosphere and keeps it there, dancing about above the rain for up to a decade!</p><p></p><p>The following map is from Robock and Xia (<a href="https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/23/6691/2023/" target="_blank">June 2023</a>). </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">You can call <em>them </em>"meatheads" if you want to - but that's <em><u>your </u></em>choice.</span></strong></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]345918[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>More here</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://eclipsenow.wordpress.com/nuclear-war/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 77640159, member: 274355"] Sure it's a [I]term [/I]of [I]normal [/I]words, [I]not [/I]proper nouns. But after reading a paper on the latest climate modelling for a nuclear winter - I personally think it deserves proper noun status. Either that or just screaming the thing in full caps - like "FULL SCALE NUCLEAR WAR!" every time we mention it. The chocolate and coffee remarks were just highlighting that many first world commentators think a price rise in these luxury goods signifies true hardship. I was kind of ironically juxtaposing them against the real horror. What we might do to ourselves. Have you read the climate science modelling a nuclear winter? For the record - I am not a 'climate doomer.' Indeed - [URL='https://eclipsenow.wordpress.com/doomers/#a-weird-alliance']there's even evidence that big oil are sponsoring climate doomers[/URL] because when someone truly believes its the end of the world and all hopeless - they give up activism! That's not me. See my page on doomers at the link above - where I explain that a suicide on a doomer forum I was on decades ago changed the rest of my life. I'm an optimist! BUT if we push ALL the big red buttons at once? Here's my layman's guide to TEOTWAWKI - a paragraph based on the latest science. [INDENT][B]Australia's 2019 mega-fire smoke provided more certainty:[/B] There has been a bit of a complicated history modelling nuclear-winter. Ironically, they have new confidence in modelling nuclear [I]winter [/I]because by studying [I]global[/I] [I]warming[/I]. Recent studies of the climate-disaster 2019 Australian mega-fires gave them more data on smoke. The black carbon in smoke behaves a bit like a hot air balloon if it gets high enough from a big enough initial fire. The sun heats it and lifts it up above the rain clouds into the stratosphere and keeps it there, dancing about above the rain for up to a decade![/INDENT] The following map is from Robock and Xia ([URL='https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/23/6691/2023/']June 2023[/URL]). [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]You can call [I]them [/I]"meatheads" if you want to - but that's [I][U]your [/U][/I]choice.[/COLOR][/B] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1713140505675.png"]345918[/ATTACH] More here [URL unfurl="true"]https://eclipsenow.wordpress.com/nuclear-war/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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