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Oh, good grief. You're outside the bubble. Hey everyone, he got out out. He's outside the bubble!

They were both defined right at the start. You can offer different definitions if you like. 'Free will' seems to have a few variations.

You've beaten that dead horse so much it's not recognisable as a horse any more. It's just a bloody smear on the sidewalk. You haven't actually brought anything to the conversation but I should at least thank you for your input. It's only polite. And in the best tradition of equity and...

Are you saying that you want me to ask you something about free will that's not connected with free will? It sounds like you are. Maybe I could reword it: Do you always have reasons for the decisions you make?

Why are you completely ignoring what has been shown to you? Even when correcting for prior convictions, black people get longer sentences. Which part of that sentence do you not understand?

I thought you wanted me to bring something new to the table. Hang on, I'll check. Yes, you did. A few posts back. I guess you changed your mind. That's a shame.

I see that you got the answer that you probably expected...

C'mon, it's a simple question. Has there ever been a time when you made a non random decision free from any prior reasons?

Free from coercion. I totally agree. And if there are still books available that you don't want your kids to read, you tell them 'I don't want you reading this book because...' Fill in the ellipses as necessary.

I did. I asled you if you'd ever made a decisionfor no reason.

Is someone keeping a list of all the Trump supporters who have been fined and/or jailed or are still waiting to hear what the sentences will be?

My answer to these type of questions is generally 'Which God are we talking about?' The one that sent His son to be tortured? The one who told a father to kill his son. The one that said to kill all the Canaanites? The one that drowned every man, woman and child on the planet bar one family? The...

This is becoming too repetitive by far. Either please bring something new to the table (decisions made for no reasons perhaps) or we're done.

I'm honestly surprised that you haven't come across statements such as: 'OK, for the sake of the argument...' The premise is accepted and then the argument stands or falls on everything from that point onwards. You don't need to be convinced it's true. It's a bone of contention, so you grant...

I've used it myself. I don't know why you think it's not valid. On the assumption that it's valid in other areas, of course it will succeed. It's a common means of making an argument. I literally had to check your post count then to see how long you'd been on the forum. I thought you might not...

I don't want to do your work for you. Not that I could anyway because I know it's a fool's errand. But if you're saying that it can't be done, then my premise will stand. You can't exclude that it hasn't been falsified because you say you can't falsify it? Friend, that's really not how this...

Then your job, should you wish to take it, is to prove there was no cause. No, to the conclusion that unless there is evidence to the contrary...it stands. Feel free to find that evidence. It is. You always assume a cause. If you assume there wasn't in some case, then let's hear about it...

From the bible? Then I think we're all safe from Christian Nationalism.

I might point out that 'We don't know that there's never been an effect without a cause' is in the same ball park. I've bent over backwards to change the premise to 'On the assumption that all effects have a cause...' I don't want to add '...and that we weren't all created a few minutes ago, and...

I'm willing to look at any one for proof. The declaration stands. I don't care if there are an infinity of effects for which we don't know the case. And there are. And that's not an exaggeration. Unless we examine every event in the universe that has ever happened then we can't claim it as a...