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As I said. I would suggest next time you go and read the conversation and if you have any questions, ask for clarification instead of just jumping in.

So why should I believe a claim that has no supporting evidence?

Okay, you really seem to be having trouble with this... Aaron12 said, "Gubberments and farmassies rewrote history..." I was talking about governments rewriting history. I said that a government can change the history books, but they can't change the events that actually happened. Then you...

Okay, point taken, but then you went and changed it by claiming you were providing evidence. Post 395 if you want to go and see for yourself. And you provided no evidence. You just repeated the claim. And yes, we have thorns today, but absolutely no evidence that rose bushes were thornless...

But the amount of energy can be measured and we can predict exactly how much energy will be released. That doesn't really fit in with the idea that energy has no intrinsic value. But the value of a good or service is subjective. The example I gave of a glass of water shows that. Intrinsic...

Yeah, the conversation was literally talking about governments rewriting history. Like I said, you didn't understand the actual conversation.

No, you merely repeated the claim. The claim is not evidence. The Bible is not evidence for the claims made within the Bible. By this logic, The Lord of the Rings is evidence that Middle Earth is real. You need to provide external evidence. If I had only one book that spoke about the...

My mum was a photographer, and I picked up quite a bit. What's happening is that the holes in the leaves are forming a basic pinhole camera. The size of the hole doesn't make any difference to the size of the image, but to the sharpness of it. If the hole is small, it will be sharp, but also...

You didn't understand at all what I was talking about, did you?

Yeah, it doesn't work when you use the claim as evidence for the claim.

Molecules don't think. It's the INTERACTION between many molecules that does it.

So energy has no intrinsic value either? Then how do the things that use energy know how far to go? For example, how does a nuclear reaction "know" to produce a certain amount of energy from a given amount of radioactive material? I'd rather argue the opposite. Barter has no intrinsic value...

I would argue that this rewritten history is not actually history...

So you are saying the fundamental nature of the universe changed? Please describe these changes in detail.

Of course, maturity REQUIRES history...

Money IS barter. It used to be that if I needed some meat and you needed some fruit I'd trade you for some of the meat I had for some of the fruit you had. As long as we both agreed that the fruit I was giving you had the same value as the meat you were giving me, then it's a fair trade. We...

Funny that you say that, considering that the only reason you need to resort to this embedded age bunk in the first place is to reconcile the claims of the Bible with the evidence that science has provided. If you really thought that science could take a hike, you wouldn't need this embedded...

Age is the result of existence. If there's no existence, there's no age.

So how can something have an age unless it has actually existed for that time? Like, how can the earth have an age of billions of years unless it has actually existed for billions of years?

Or we could just get rid of money altogether... But that's a discussion for another thread...