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You're entitled to your opinion.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

What made them look in the first place?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. You're all alone on this, aren't you?

And all but this handful interpret their information from the same source, don't they?

:scratch: I don't get the joke.

You didn't deserve that comment.

I don't think the rules were written to keep someone from agreeing with someone else, using terminology (such as "amen") that is outside of the general list of scientific jargon.

RIGHT ON! :oldthumbsup:

So? To use your words: 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 does not say those caught up go to Jerusalem. And no proof of a rapture to Jerusalem either. Those saved during the Millennial Reign will experience death. Those saved before the Millennial Reign will not, since they will have new bodies...

Academia's view of the universe:

The revelation of Jesus Christ will be in two distinct events: The Rapture and the Return. Here are the differences: 1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14). 2) The...

I "jumped into this thread" to answer the OP with one single word: "yes".

Okay. There are some steps in between; but yes. Taken out by Christ, to be with Christ for all eternity. Actually, it is. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ...

Sounds like you two have had some exchanges in the past. God bless you and keep up the faith!

Pretrib rapture. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth...

Correct. Regarding any kind of rapture, what happened to Enoch? Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. Elijah? 2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and...

:sigh:

The Tribulation Period is know as a time of wrath. Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath. Proverbs 11:4 Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death. Zephaniah 1:15 That day is a day...

Sadly, you're correct. But for we believers, the Rapture is called our "blessed hope." Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;