Zelensky calls on Nato to shoot down Putin’s missiles

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Russia-Ukraine war – latest: Zelensky calls on Nato to shoot down Putin’s missiles amid glide bomb attacks

Volodymyr Zelensky called on Nato allies to shoot down Russian missiles if they are not prepared to provide Ukraine with more air defence systems.

The president issued the plea as he called on Western allies to boost military aid to his country as Russia puts Ukraine under pressure along the frontline in the northeast, east and south of the country.

“You can’t provide that right now? Ok…returning to the planes that you have on the territory of neighbouring Nato countries: raise them up ... shoot down targets, protect civilians,” he said.

Elsewhere, Germany’s foreign minister on Tuesday visited Kyiv in the latest display of support for Ukraine by its Western partners, although deliveries of promised weapons and ammunition from Nato countries like Germany have been slow and have left Ukraine vulnerable to a recent Russian push along parts of the front line.

Annalena Baerbock renewed Berlin’s calls for partners to send more air defense systems, as Russia pounds Ukraine with missiles, glide bombs and rockets.

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Kremlin says Zelenskyy ‘slipping into hysterics’ wanting the West to get directly involved in the war

The Kremlin said Tuesday that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s latest appeal for more Western aid and involvement in the conflict is due to Ukraine’s “extremely unfavorable” situation on the battlefield.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters that new arms supplies will not change the dynamic on the battlefield either.

Russia begins exercise with tactical nuclear weapons

Russian forces on Tuesday began the first stage of training in the “preparation and use of non-strategic nuclear weapons,” the Ministry of Defense said in a post on Telegram.
“As part of this stage, the personnel of the missile formations of the Southern Military District are practicing combat training tasks of obtaining special ammunition for the Iskander operational-tactical missile system, equipping launch vehicles with them and covertly advancing to the designated position area in preparation for missile launches,” the post read.
President Vladimir Putin ordered the drills earlier this month in a move he said was designed to deter military involvement in Ukraine by the West.
 

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I'm going to combine 2 reports here:

Russia-Ukraine war – latest: Zelensky calls on Nato to shoot down Putin’s missiles amid glide bomb attacks

Volodymyr Zelensky called on Nato allies to shoot down Russian missiles if they are not prepared to provide Ukraine with more air defence systems.

The president issued the plea as he called on Western allies to boost military aid to his country as Russia puts Ukraine under pressure along the frontline in the northeast, east and south of the country.

“You can’t provide that right now? Ok…returning to the planes that you have on the territory of neighbouring Nato countries: raise them up ... shoot down targets, protect civilians,” he said.

Elsewhere, Germany’s foreign minister on Tuesday visited Kyiv in the latest display of support for Ukraine by its Western partners, although deliveries of promised weapons and ammunition from Nato countries like Germany have been slow and have left Ukraine vulnerable to a recent Russian push along parts of the front line.

Annalena Baerbock renewed Berlin’s calls for partners to send more air defense systems, as Russia pounds Ukraine with missiles, glide bombs and rockets.

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UPDATED TUE, MAY 21 20241:49 PM EDT

Kremlin says Zelenskyy ‘slipping into hysterics’ wanting the West to get directly involved in the war

The Kremlin said Tuesday that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s latest appeal for more Western aid and involvement in the conflict is due to Ukraine’s “extremely unfavorable” situation on the battlefield.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters that new arms supplies will not change the dynamic on the battlefield either.

Russia begins exercise with tactical nuclear weapons

Russian forces on Tuesday began the first stage of training in the “preparation and use of non-strategic nuclear weapons,” the Ministry of Defense said in a post on Telegram.
“As part of this stage, the personnel of the missile formations of the Southern Military District are practicing combat training tasks of obtaining special ammunition for the Iskander operational-tactical missile system, equipping launch vehicles with them and covertly advancing to the designated position area in preparation for missile launches,” the post read.
President Vladimir Putin ordered the drills earlier this month in a move he said was designed to deter military involvement in Ukraine by the West.
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Super yikes.

Yeah, I know. This just shows his desperation, and also that he seems like he's entitled to assistance from others. He don't seem to be looking at the big picture that drawing NATO aircraft in directly automatically causes escalation and a potential war between NATO and Russia directly.
But it is all in God's hands, and if it's time to bring about end time prophecies, so be it.
 
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Yeah, I know. This just shows his desperation, and also that he seems like he's entitled to assistance from others. He don't seem to be looking at the big picture that drawing NATO aircraft in directly automatically causes escalation and a potential war between NATO and Russia directly.
But it is all in God's hands, and if it's time to bring about end time prophecies, so be it.
This is why we should always be prepared. Expect Him to come today - because He just might.
 
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Yeah, I know. This just shows his desperation, and also that he seems like he's entitled to assistance from others. He don't seem to be looking at the big picture that drawing NATO aircraft in directly automatically causes escalation and a potential war between NATO and Russia directly.
But it is all in God's hands, and if it's time to bring about end time prophecies, so be it.
If it's all in God's hands then it doesn't matter what NATO or Ukraine does, does it? It dosen't matter what anyone does, since we would all just be automatons, acting according to his will.
 
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If it's all in God's hands then it doesn't matter what NATO or Ukraine does, does it? It dosen't matter what anyone does, since we would all just be automatons, acting according to his will.
If we were all acting according to His will then there would be no wars.

God wants us to choose to follow Him.
 
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NATO cannot do that. It would grossly escalate things!
How so? This is about anti-missile/drone defense deep in Ukrainian territory, for example, near the Polish border. The only things that would be destroyed are unmanned Russian flying things that the Russians were going to blow up anyway. (By hitting some civilian target.)
 
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If it's all in God's hands then it doesn't matter what NATO or Ukraine does, does it? It dosen't matter what anyone does, since we would all just be automatons, acting according to his will.
But it's not in God's hands. God has shown us what we do to each other for power it's up to mankind to abide by God's will for us. Love, peace, joy....
 
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How so? This is about anti-missile/drone defense deep in Ukrainian territory, for example, near the Polish border. The only things that would be destroyed are unmanned Russian flying things that the Russians were going to blow up anyway. (By hitting some civilian target.)

It's a fair question.
The US (and other countries) defended Israel from Iranian missiles and drones. Why not Ukraine?
 
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It's a fair question.
The US (and other countries) defended Israel from Iranian missiles and drones. Why not Ukraine?
I was under the impression that Ukraine is not an ally of the US or a member of NATO - while Israel is an ally of US.

Could that be the key difference?
 
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I was under the impression that Ukraine is not an ally of the US or a member of NATO - while Israel is an ally of US.

Could that be the key difference?

IMO, Ukraine is considered a US ally. It's done more to weaken Russia's military than any event since the end of WW2.
 
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I was under the impression that Ukraine is not an ally of the US or a member of NATO - while Israel is an ally of US.

Could that be the key difference?
Ukraine has entered into various defense agreements with many NATO nations. Not the US, yet, but none of these plans would have US troops firing at Russian missiles over western Ukraine. Instead it would be Polish troops on Polish territory or something similar. (Russian missiles often fly over Moldova to get to places near Odesa. Some have fallen on Moldovan territory.)
 
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