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What do Seventh-day Adventists Believe? lists the actual voted beliefs of the denomination
Belief #24 states our position on the judgment - as noted here #7
The Investigative Judgment doctrine that Adventists teach is found in places like Dan 7 and Rom 2. It declares that before the return of Christ , He engages in a work of judgment that results in "judgment passed in favor of the saints" Dan 7:22. And that as Dan 7 states - when that judgment completes all persecution of Christians ceases and the 2nd coming happens, but until then the saints are being opposed, persecuted..etc.
Adventists say that this is a doctrine that stands or falls "sola scriptura". So the case made is from scripture alone as is shown on this thread.
(Usually - those who claim it is not based on scripture at all will of course try to ignore every scripture detail presented and "wish away" the texts without actually looking at them in detail or responding in detail (as some posts will show).
Daniel 7 tells us some key facts for those paying attention to the details in the chapter.
1. The judgment before the 2nd coming. (Pre-Advent) When Judgment ends we have 2nd coming/appearing according to the chapter
2. The Judgment scope that includes the saints ... and judgment passed in favor of the saints. vs 22.
3. The (little horn) persecution of the saints does not stop until after the judgment completes. So it is the key to ending that problem of the little horn.
4. The 1260 years of dark ages
5. The judgment event is connected to the end point for the dark ages persecution of the saints.
Solution: the "solution" in Daniel 7 is "the judgment" and that same "solution" in Daniel 8 is the cleansing of the sanctuary.
Romans 2:4-16 gives us the process for how names are accepted vs rejected in that judgment and tells us that the event is still future to Paul's day in vs 16 of Rom 2.
2 Cor 5:10 tells us that it is for all the saints - all -- in the future - must stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
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Number #1 - main point
Dan 7 ALONE establishes:
Belief #24 states our position on the judgment - as noted here #7
The Investigative Judgment doctrine that Adventists teach is found in places like Dan 7 and Rom 2. It declares that before the return of Christ , He engages in a work of judgment that results in "judgment passed in favor of the saints" Dan 7:22. And that as Dan 7 states - when that judgment completes all persecution of Christians ceases and the 2nd coming happens, but until then the saints are being opposed, persecuted..etc.
Adventists say that this is a doctrine that stands or falls "sola scriptura". So the case made is from scripture alone as is shown on this thread.
(Usually - those who claim it is not based on scripture at all will of course try to ignore every scripture detail presented and "wish away" the texts without actually looking at them in detail or responding in detail (as some posts will show).
Daniel 7 tells us some key facts for those paying attention to the details in the chapter.
1. The judgment before the 2nd coming. (Pre-Advent) When Judgment ends we have 2nd coming/appearing according to the chapter
2. The Judgment scope that includes the saints ... and judgment passed in favor of the saints. vs 22.
3. The (little horn) persecution of the saints does not stop until after the judgment completes. So it is the key to ending that problem of the little horn.
4. The 1260 years of dark ages
5. The judgment event is connected to the end point for the dark ages persecution of the saints.
Solution: the "solution" in Daniel 7 is "the judgment" and that same "solution" in Daniel 8 is the cleansing of the sanctuary.
Romans 2:4-16 gives us the process for how names are accepted vs rejected in that judgment and tells us that the event is still future to Paul's day in vs 16 of Rom 2.
2 Cor 5:10 tells us that it is for all the saints - all -- in the future - must stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
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Number #1 - main point
Number #2 main pointIt is one thing to pay close attention to the details in the texts on page one and conclude "I see those texts but I don't agree with your conclusions".
It is an entirely DIFFERENT thing to say "I see no texts, I see not case made where you claim your position is based on scripture, rather you claim your basis is tradition or simply making stuff up".
I don't see how this point is even a little bit confusing
Dan 7 ALONE establishes:
- the pre-advent judment-out-of-books CORPORATE event (court-room event),
- where details in books are evaluated
- by the non-God courtroom observers,
- and the conclusion reached is "judgment passed in favor of the saints"
- Such that once the conclusion is reached all persecution of the saints ends
- , and the kingdom is turned over.
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